I had a chance to work in marketing and you can't even compare. Engineers just combine and assemble what they learned from textbooks. I've spent lots of time with electronics engineers, and all the new products they can imagine are new measurement instruments. And guess what, these measurement instruments are used to measure what other instruments are doing. Like going in a circle.
Like one in thousand if I had seen an engineer to come up with new product. While marketing guys just churn new product ideas one per day.
I have to confess Dejan.....
You are absolutely correct and that is one qualified engineer to another forum member.
I had been saying this all along, and I should not be saying it because I am one myself.
Having studied with them, they are bloo*y idiots.
Dozy as well!
We do however have one of the most difficult degrees to get. Reason being is that we have memorise about 100 formula.
Being an engineer requires a good memory that is all.
The reason why I passed my BSc was because I learnt how to copy.
When I went to university I only had ONC qualifications and a few C&G s
I had failed all my exam at school because I was not interested. In later life I needed qualifications and went through 'the back door' to university.
In the UK we have an education system that primarily puts you on the 'ladder' when you are 11 years old.
It was called a scholarship and allowed those fortunate enough to go to Grammar school by which they would take 'O' Levels and then 'A' Levels by which they would enter university.
The ones who never got their Advanced Level General Education (they required 3) never made it to university and they became nasty arrogant buggers to take out their frustration on folks like myself.
They had to go through the 'back door' taking either HNC or HND. I got both of these and life was hell with these big headed ba*tards.
The ones who got there by natural efforts were okay.
When I entered the university system, I was unfit for a job and had to be retrained. Hence the Benefit Office sponsored and gave me free registration. They had to get rid of me from their system as I was a failure and bad for statistics. The reason why I was unemployable was because I walked out of a job and when I went for interviews I was too old, under qualified and a bad reputation for not keeping a job.
Without having part time employment was a big insult to them. Oh how they hated me.
These guys were roughly 19-20 years old and had the flow of previous education. I was about 32 years old and had not studied or had a book for 16 years and had to compete on their level. I had no qualifications at that stage because I was 'dead from 16 onward' and if I was no good they would have just chucked me out.
Fortunately I was good and they went to the principle to get me banned for getting too high marks. Saying that it was unfair that they had jobs and that I was a dead loss with no future of ever working again and did not need a degree.
When that failed, they would tear up my assignments so that I would lose marks.
I had to leave college (first year of degree course) and scrap one years work to study at another college by which they were the same. Stupid and nasty!
I dared not complain or lose my temper because I would have got chucked out of college.
I found BSc easy and realised that the only way I could get my own back on them was to beat them at exams and make THEM look the fools.
In Mechanical Science and Mathematics, I received a 94% pass mark and beat the lot of them. By which it was absolutely fantastic to watch them bury their heads in their hands and shake their heads!
They tried desperately to lower my marks but exams were controlled by moderators, but they did however lower mine by 5% as they had threatened to walk out.
Because things were very tense, it created more work for the staff and I had them as enemies which made it even more dangerous to complain.
I used to get comments like:- "Is this another one of your pastimes!!!??"
Oh yer they would have loved to lower my marks to almost nothing but they could not. So they started nick-picking on cover sheets being the wrong colour even though my course work was correct as to fail me. Which they did...but this time I just had enough because now my units were suffering.
I remember the principle telling me:- "YOU WHAT???....we don't want another Yugoslavia on our hands"
One of the staff was dismissed instantly and the work that I had failed got a distinction straight away.
Oh what kindness followed...lol
There were 46 who started the course and only ten gained their degree, as the rest could not cope .
When I was near finishing my first year at college and ready for DeMontfort University in Leicester, thery turned to me and said:-
"We tried to break you, but you handled it well...and now we respect you and will let you move on"
(yer because they lost)
At university they were all good guys! Reason being is that the main stream 'A' Level first time pass group were there and the 'back door' students had to shut their mouths! I got on fine with them! They just did not care what nationality or whatever your background was. You were there and that made you an equal!
From university I gained Mechatronics and computer sciences together with marketing and business studies ISO 4000/4001 JIT technology...the lot.
I became a computer engineer and started my own business and eventually retired by which together with my partner we are millionaires and own property.
Now I am looking for something easy...like Psychology leading to Parapsychology in Msc and hopefully become a doctor so that I can learn to write books. Being a Doctor in Parapsychology will shut a lot of mouths...lol
Trouble is, that all who believe in UFOs and the paranormal are deemed as crazy and there is no demand for work and hence very hard to get a paranormal degree!
There are a lot of 'crazies' about so they need doctors in psychology.
I am still not an A1 writer as I had suffered bad with my English at school but that will improve.
George