Deadly Wuhan Coronavirus

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Noble
What actually stopped the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 ???
I still can't find a clear answer - Maybe they were lucky?

Or, if you believe in aliens interacting with this planet, maybe they irradiated the whole planet with some type of radiation and ended it ? - Far fetched I know.

Back to the reality of the current situation:

How U.S. Cities Tried to Stop The 1918 Flu Pandemic
A devastating second wave of the Spanish Flu hit American shores in the summer of 1918, as returning soldiers infected with the disease spread it to the general population—especially in densely-crowded cities. Without a vaccine or approved treatment plan, it fell to local mayors and healthy officials to improvise plans to safeguard the safety of their citizens. With pressure to appear patriotic at wartime and with a censored media downplaying the disease’s spread, many made tragic decisions........."
https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic



Why does this sound familiar? Why? - Because we, especially in the US are repeating the
same stupidity.

I just heard the latest press briefing from the White House and the women representative
ot the President was saying Trump has nothing against face masks but we should all do
what local governments suggest.

Donald Trump may have been acceptable {If you're on the right] during good times
- but has shown a lack of leadership during this national/worldwide pandemic

A national, yes even worldwide, policy is necessary to end it.

Even if we have to greatly limit the commerce of the World for a few months
- and it may have to be done on a national-worldwide basis.

They may have been lucky during the time of the Spanish flu, at least to its ending,

- We may not be so lucky this time !!!
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
In NY masks have been mandatory for some time and yet there is still a very vocal minority that absolutely refuses to wear them. Apply that to the whole country and there are many who go apeshit over it for reasons that aren't totally clear to me. Plenty around here, I don't have to look far - I will be dealing with them this morning in about an hour. Yes, it would be nice if we were all provided masks but access to masks doesn't seem to be the real problem, using them and doing so properly is the sticker.

We're all F'd. Our government's response both at a state and federal level in many cases has been underwhelming, the media - whatever that is exactly any more - should be sent off en masse as the first Mars colonists, and a notable percentage of people are just stupid. Stupid is underrated and it explains a lot.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
from my twins FB in response to a friend who said it's like the flu..

Chicken pox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years.

Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years.

HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system, and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.

Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood.
So far the symptoms may include:
Fever
Fatigue
Coughing
Pneumonia
Chills/Trembling
Acute respiratory distress
Lung damage (potentially permanent)
Loss of smell and/or taste (a neurological symptom)
Sore throat
Headaches
Difficulty breathing
Mental confusion
Diarrhea
Nausea or vomiting
Loss of appetite
Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)
Swollen eyes
Blood clots
Seizures
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Rash
COVID toes (weird, right?)

People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.

Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.

This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know.

For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:
How dare you?

How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30 year olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.

How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:
Frequent hand-washing
Physical distancing
Reduced social/public contact or interaction
Mask wearing
Covering your cough or sneeze
Avoiding touching your face
Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces

The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.

I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
In NY masks have been mandatory for some time and yet there is still a very vocal minority that absolutely refuses to wear them. Apply that to the whole country and there are many who go apeshit over it for reasons that aren't totally clear to me. Plenty around here, I don't have to look far - I will be dealing with them this morning in about an hour. Yes, it would be nice if we were all provided masks but access to masks doesn't seem to be the real problem, using them and doing so properly is the sticker.

We're all F'd. Our government's response both at a state and federal level in many cases has been underwhelming, the media - whatever that is exactly any more - should be sent off en masse as the first Mars colonists, and a notable percentage of people are just stupid. Stupid is underrated and it explains a lot.
I have zero sympathy for those that won’t use a mask. If nothing else, do they not care about others? The other thing that boggles my mind is that the COVID cases are ramping up not down. Sure it is a pain in the ass to wear. Still, I would prefer not to die in a hospital without my relatives and friends to see me off.
 

nivek

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Nearly one-third of COVID-19 patients in Houston's ICU are now under 50 and health workers warn many are seriously ill and 'feeling like death' - as cases continue to spike among young adults in Texas

Nearly one-third of COVID-19 patients being treated in intensive care units in Houston are now under the age of 50 - as cases continue to spike among young adults across Texas and health workers warn many are getting seriously ill. During the first surge of cases in mid-April, the majority of patients being treated for coronavirus in the Houston Methodist hospital system were older than 50.

In a disturbing generational shift, about 60 percent of current patients are under that age bracket. Almost one in three who are now occupying ICU beds are also under 50. Infections are currently spiking among young adults in states like Texas where bars, nightclubs and restaurants reopened - prompting younger generations to start going out again, many without wearing masks.

While health experts have been warning that such behavior poses a bigger danger to older people who cross their paths, current trends in hospitalizations show that younger people do face the possibility of severe infection and death from COVID-19.

Houston Methodist CEO Dr Marc Boom told CNBC's Squawk Box that the current surge had 'completely flipped' since the early stages of the pandemic. He said about 40 percent of patients were under the age of 50 in mid-April and one in five were in ICU. 'We are definitely seeing this affect young people and they're getting quite ill,' he said.

The Houston Methodist hospital system is part of the Texas Medical Center's cluster of major public and private hospitals in the city.

Tritico Saranathan, a nurse in one of Methodist's designated virus wards, told the New York Times she had noticed a difference in the age of patients compared to mid-April - and warned that many were 'just feeling like death'. 'We're seeing a lot of people in their 30s - they're out there partying and not wearing their masks,' she said. 'As soon as the city opened up, they were very eager to go to the bars, to the clubs, to the restaurants, just to hang out in groups. And no one was social distancing or wearing a mask.

'What I'm seeing is that they're pretty sick - the younger ones are pretty sick. They're struggling a lot with respiratory issues. They're having a hard time breathing.'

(more on the link)

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Noble
Puzzling study detects coronavirus in Spain wastewater from March 2019
  • Researchers from Spain studied wastewater samples from Barcelona going back to January 2018 and found evidence of the novel coronavirus in samples from March 2019.
  • The discovery is puzzling, given the characteristics of COVID-19 outbreaks. The highly contagious respiratory illness would have ravaged Barcelona several months before the Wuhan epidemic, but that did not happen.
"Separately, researchers from various countries have been able to prove that COVID-19 hit communities well before the first cases were officially confirmed by PCR tests. Doctors in France found patients that had COVID-19-like symptoms back in November 2019 and detected the virus in frozen samples from a different patient that was treated in a hospital for flu-like symptoms in late December 2019. Italian doctors said their first COVID-19 cases must have dated back to January, while other Italian researchers found coronavirus traces in wastewater from two major northern towns dating back to mid-December. US studies said the first COVID-19 patients may have been infected in late December, and that sustained community transmission had started even earlier than previous estimates. A different study that looked at mapping data for Wuhan hospitals found unusual parking lot activity in August and September of 2019......"
Quote source:
Puzzling study detects coronavirus in Spain wastewater from March 2019


And the source/origin is also still questionable
- I know people don't want to believe and as far as we know, or 'they' are telling us,
it can't be shown or proved that
this was not some type of bio-weapon or terrorist attack - Just don't rule that out !
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The numbers continue to grow, many more new deaths today (Tuesday) unfortunately, and even in the county I live in which is rural new cases have jumped today, I did not leave my house this day...

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nivek

As Above So Below
Quote source:
Puzzling study detects coronavirus in Spain wastewater from March 2019


And the source/origin is also still questionable
- I know people don't want to believe and as far as we know, or 'they' are telling us,
it can't be shown or proved that
this was not some type of bio-weapon or terrorist attack - Just don't rule that out !

Yes that study, which is currently under peer review, is highly questionable as stated in this article:

Study Found Traces of Coronavirus in Europe in March 2019. Here's What That Means

Reasons to be circumspect

A curious thing about this finding is that it disagrees with epidemiological data about the virus. The authors don't cite reports of a spike in the number of respiratory disease cases in the local population following the date of the sampling.

Also, we know SARS-CoV-2 to be highly transmissible, at least in its current form. If this result is a true positive it suggests the virus was present in the population at a high enough incidence to be detected in an 800ml sample of sewage, but then not present at a high enough incidence to be detected for nine months, when no control measures were in place.

So, until further studies are carried out, it is best not to draw definitive conclusions.

...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Thousands of Your Favorite Fast Food Locations Could Close

The effects of the coronavirus pandemic and restaurant closings on food businesses will be felt for a while. Some have been forced to limit their menu. Others have shut down a number of locations. A couple of them have shut down for good altogether.

All that, plus, a company that operates two popular fast-food restaurants may be filing for bankruptcy soon, meaning some Pizza Hut and Wendy's locations could be in trouble.

NPC International Inc, which owns 1,229 franchised Pizza Hut locations and 393 franchised Wendy's locations is preparing to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy because it is $800 million in debt, according to the Wall Street Journal. The company has been in talks to file since the beginning of the year when it missed interest payments on its debt. The first Pizza Hut under the NPC company opened in 1962.


All of this comes after Pizza Hut's parent company, Yum! Brands announced that customers turned to the pizza giant during stay-at-home orders. In May they hit an eight-year high in sales of delivery and carryout orders. Sales compared to this time last year are up over 10%.

Unlike other bankruptcy types, chapter 11 means a company will look at its debt and make changes to reduce it. The company that owns and operates Chuck E. Cheese, called CEC Entertainment, also filed for this type recently, after laying off workers and selling their pizza under a different name during the pandemic. Only 266 locations of the place"where a kid could be a kid" and the company's other brand, Piper Pizza, have reopened, it's hard to say when more will join them.

The parent company of fast-casual cafe Le Pain Quotidien filed for chapter 11 in May. Brio Italian Mediterranean and Bravo Fresh Italian owner FoodFirst Global Restaurants did so as well. Some states are closing restaurants again, but here are 6 Other Beloved Restaurants That Have Filed for Bankruptcy because of COVID-19.

The stay-at-home and quarantine guidelines designed to abate the coronavirus outbreak have hit most industries very hard. On the list of businesses decimated by the cratered U.S. economy, restaurants are near the top. While there are outlier examples of eating establishments making a successful pivot to takeout and delivery service, some estimates have only three in four eateries bouncing back from COVID-19.

It's not just independently owned and local eateries that have been financially crushed by the coronavirus; national chains have been hit hard as well. In fact, only four national chains posted a profit in the first quarter of 2020, which ended on March 31. So, it should be no surprise that a number of dining chains have shuttered outposts, but it is no less tragic. Click through the slide show (on the link) for a list of some of the biggest restaurant chains that are forever closing a number of locations.

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Thousands of Your Favorite Fast Food Locations Could Close

The effects of the coronavirus pandemic and restaurant closings on food businesses will be felt for a while. Some have been forced to limit their menu. Others have shut down a number of locations. A couple of them have shut down for good altogether.

All that, plus, a company that operates two popular fast-food restaurants may be filing for bankruptcy soon, meaning some Pizza Hut and Wendy's locations could be in trouble.

NPC International Inc, which owns 1,229 franchised Pizza Hut locations and 393 franchised Wendy's locations is preparing to file for chapter 11 bankruptcy because it is $800 million in debt, according to the Wall Street Journal. The company has been in talks to file since the beginning of the year when it missed interest payments on its debt. The first Pizza Hut under the NPC company opened in 1962.


All of this comes after Pizza Hut's parent company, Yum! Brands announced that customers turned to the pizza giant during stay-at-home orders. In May they hit an eight-year high in sales of delivery and carryout orders. Sales compared to this time last year are up over 10%.

Unlike other bankruptcy types, chapter 11 means a company will look at its debt and make changes to reduce it. The company that owns and operates Chuck E. Cheese, called CEC Entertainment, also filed for this type recently, after laying off workers and selling their pizza under a different name during the pandemic. Only 266 locations of the place"where a kid could be a kid" and the company's other brand, Piper Pizza, have reopened, it's hard to say when more will join them.

The parent company of fast-casual cafe Le Pain Quotidien filed for chapter 11 in May. Brio Italian Mediterranean and Bravo Fresh Italian owner FoodFirst Global Restaurants did so as well. Some states are closing restaurants again, but here are 6 Other Beloved Restaurants That Have Filed for Bankruptcy because of COVID-19.

The stay-at-home and quarantine guidelines designed to abate the coronavirus outbreak have hit most industries very hard. On the list of businesses decimated by the cratered U.S. economy, restaurants are near the top. While there are outlier examples of eating establishments making a successful pivot to takeout and delivery service, some estimates have only three in four eateries bouncing back from COVID-19.

It's not just independently owned and local eateries that have been financially crushed by the coronavirus; national chains have been hit hard as well. In fact, only four national chains posted a profit in the first quarter of 2020, which ended on March 31. So, it should be no surprise that a number of dining chains have shuttered outposts, but it is no less tragic. Click through the slide show (on the link) for a list of some of the biggest restaurant chains that are forever closing a number of locations.

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The downstream effect of rampant obesity is part of the problem with our medical system. Less fast food sounds good to me, strictly from a health standpoint. Preparing your own meals and God forbid, maybe taking a walk once in a while is maybe one of the rare positives from all this.

Unfortunately, not so cut & dry. There are lots of people's livelihoods tied up with all that.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
California locks down AGAIN: Gov. Newsom shuts all bars, indoor restaurants and movie theaters in 19 counties for at least three weeks as coronavirus cases surge across the state

California Governor Gavin Newsom has ordered all bars, indoor restaurant operations and movie theaters to shut down immediately in most parts of the state as coronavirus cases continue to spike.

Newsom announced the revised stay-at-home order on Wednesday, nearly three weeks after California bars, stores, restaurants and salons reopened for the first time after a three-month lockdown. Since then, the number of COVID-19 cases have begun to rise again, increasing nearly 50 per cent over the last two weeks, with a 43 per cent spike in hospitalizations.

As of Monday, there were 222,917 confirmed cases in the state and 5,980 deaths, according to state's public health department.

The shutdown, which will last for at least three weeks, applies to 19 counties where nearly three-quarters of the state's roughly 40 million population lives - including Los Angeles County.


(more on the link)

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nivek

As Above So Below
Over 50,000 new cases posted today in the US...

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Standingstones

Celestial
California locks down AGAIN: Gov. Newsom shuts all bars, indoor restaurants and movie theaters in 19 counties for at least three weeks as coronavirus cases surge across the state

California Governor Gavin Newsom has ordered all bars, indoor restaurant operations and movie theaters to shut down immediately in most parts of the state as coronavirus cases continue to spike.

Newsom announced the revised stay-at-home order on Wednesday, nearly three weeks after California bars, stores, restaurants and salons reopened for the first time after a three-month lockdown. Since then, the number of COVID-19 cases have begun to rise again, increasing nearly 50 per cent over the last two weeks, with a 43 per cent spike in hospitalizations.

As of Monday, there were 222,917 confirmed cases in the state and 5,980 deaths, according to state's public health department.

The shutdown, which will last for at least three weeks, applies to 19 counties where nearly three-quarters of the state's roughly 40 million population lives - including Los Angeles County.


(more on the link)

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How long until the revolution begins?
 

AlienView

Noble
How long until the revolution begins?
Don't worry about it - The way things are going there will no revolutionaries, government,
or people to revolt against.

I'd be more concerned with the viral revolution that could end the World
- at least for Humans.

I was, in the early stages, very skeptical - Thought it was some kind of New World Order
plot to enslave the World or terrorist bio-weapon attack that went wild.

At this stage does the origin really matter? If we don't gain control of the situation
its game over for Humanity.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
https://nypost.com/2020/07/01/friday-the-13th-villain-jason-pushes-mask-wearing-in-psa/

‘Friday the 13th’ villain Jason pushes mask-wearing in coronavirus PSA

By Ben Cost July 1, 2020

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Here’s some killer advice.

New York City has turned to an unlikely ally in the fight against the coronavirus: Jason Voorhees.

The masked killer from “Friday the 13th” is taking a machete to the city’s epidemic with a PSA on the importance of preventative face wear. Ogilvy, the ad agency behind the unorthodox promo, wrote on Instagram that they wanted to convey the “life-saving message” to “invincible”-feeling young people by tapping into pop culture.

In the resultant clip, the slasher villain known for slicing up campers at Camp Crystal Lake is seen nonchalantly strolling around NYC while pedestrians flee before him.

“It’s not easy — the mask makes people uncomfortable,” intones an unseen narrator while a dog walker in Central Park avoids Jason’s attempts to pet her pooch.

“I know, the whole chainsaw thing, I get it,” the narrator continues. “But the thing is, behind the mask, I’m a regular guy.”

Just when Jason’s about given up on trying to make a connection, a little girl approaches and gives him a proper face mask. He dons it, and she gives him an approving nod.

The clip concludes by displaying the message: “Wearing a mask can be scary. Not wearing one can be deadly.”

A slasher villain PSA might seem like overkill. However, an MTA survey from June found that one in 10 NYC straphangers refuses to wear a mask despite the state making them mandatory months ago. Not to mention that masks may slow the spread of coronavirus by up to 40%.

Meanwhile, a county in Oregon recently exempted nonwhite people from a new order requiring that face masks be worn in public — a move meant to prevent racial profiling.
 

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Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
The downstream effect of rampant obesity is part of the problem with our medical system.

According to the CDC, one out of every 3 Americans now has diabetes or prediabetes. By 2040, if trends continue, the US will spend its entire operating budget just taking care of people with diabetes. Diabetes is a leading contributor to blindness, kidney failure, and amputations.

The obesity rate worldwide continues to increase every year.

 

Standingstones

Celestial
According to the CDC, one out of every 3 Americans now has diabetes or prediabetes. By 2040, if trends continue, the US will spend its entire operating budget just taking care of people with diabetes. Diabetes is a leading contributor to blindness, kidney failure, and amputations.

The obesity rate worldwide continues to increase every year.


I think your cost estimates for diabetes in 2040 are way off. The figure I saw was for $2.8 billion to be spent in the US in 2040.
 

nivek

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Why the next few days could decide the fate of the coronavirus crisis in the US: Has death rate finally started to follow soaring infections?

The number of people in hospital with Covid-19 in the US has surged to more than 35,000 from a low of 27,000 in mid-June, suggesting a spate of deaths might be round the corner. The worst-hit country in the world, the US has now recorded more than 2.6million infections - a quarter of the global total - and at least 128,000 citizens have died of the coronavirus. While rising cases could be a sign of better testing - President Donald Trump admitted he told officials to 'slow the testing down' when the numbers got too high, which officials later claimed was a joke - more people are also ending up in hospital with the virus, which is a number that cannot be spun to look better.

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nivek

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'Don't be an idiot like me': Truck driver, 51, posted tragic last message just a day before dying of coronavirus after catching it at a party in California

A truck driver from California penned a tragic last Facebook post tinged with regret just a day before dying from coronavirus. Tommy Macias, 51, who lived in Los Angeles, said he caught the killer virus at a party in early June as coronavirus restrictions in the state were eased. In the post he admitted he 'f***ed up' by not wearing a mask and failing to keep a distance from people, saying he felt guilty for putting his family at risk.

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