Intervening

[michael59]

I can't tell 22 if you enjoy your ability or not, from the outside you seem fortunate to be able to do it, but then I have not experienced what you have. But I wish I could have experiences like that, I get tiny, fleeting glimpses over the years. Just enough to make me want more, but not enough to satisfy what I need or maybe want. But as I get older, I realize that popping pills, and smoking dope, excessive drinking, all of that stuff, is really just pointless. In a way its sad because at least when you believed it would help you could kid yourself into enjoying the experience. But I still long for some profound experience to give me hope that there is something more to all this. That's why I gravitate towards the D.M.T. But I just can't risk it while I work here.
But I would love to wait till mid summer, walk far from anywhere and take some at sunrise over a beautiful view.
From what I have read the experience for most people is life changing.

I spent hours researching after reading your post. I think I would like to try D.M.T. just for the experience.

There was one video that I watched where they said it was as though it knew everything and that made it board so it broke itself down into millions of scenarios and so it could kind of take a vacation from knowing everything. I don't think i am explaining it very well, but the point that I'm trying to make is that for about thirty years now, when someone would ask me what I thought about heaven. I would tell them that I believed when we die, we go to a place where we know all there is to know and can experience everything we felt we had missed while on earth. Then when we got board with that, we would choose to be reborn on earth and live a new life again. That way, when we pass on again, we are not bored because everything is all new again.

 

[Dundee]

Hey mate,
Just remember I am no chemist, doctor, psychologist, or spiritual guru. Nothing comes without risk. If you are on certain meds such as some Anti Depressants you would be ill advised to try it, also though mostly positive, not all trips are good. I would advise you strongly to also research bad trips, risks of psychosis, permanent damage etc etc. I guess what I am saying is my comments and opinions were never intended to suggest others try it. It is simply on my own to-do list as a personal choice, aware of the risks, at some future time. I have been aware of it for many years, read lots about it, and my choice is most definitely not an impulsive one. So think it through carefully. If you suddenly think your a Pelican and jump off a ledge chasing an insect, well that would be a bad outcome.

 

[michael59]

Don't worry about me. The strongest medicine I take is tylenol. I'm a coward at heart when it comes to these kinds of experiences. I doubt I could find it to purchase some anyway.

 

[iwant2believe2]

For those who don't or can't go the pharm route...perhaps give binaural and isochronic tones a try. Many excellent ones can be found for free on youtube. Binaural requires good headphones, isochronic does not. There are some wild, ludicrous claims on some of them but for expanding consciousness and exploring alternate realities they do work. You might have to work with them a bit. I don't know and can't rightly judge since they immediately send me spiraling into the netherworld. lol

Edit: be cautious if you have epilepsy or mental illness. You must be your own best judge of your health.

Happy travels

 

[iwant2believe2]

I use to sometimes have dream images superimposed over my real vision.
It started at about age 6 and lasted until about 18.
Astral projections and lucid dreaming were common with me back then as well.

Do you know why it stopped altogether? Were you able to stop it while it was occurring...the intrusions I mean.

 

[SOUL-DRIFTER]

Do you know why it stopped altogether? Were you able to stop it while it was occurring...the intrusions I mean.

They slowly would fade as I woke up more and became more alert. But I often would walk into a wall that I saw had a doorway or reach to grab something that was a mere dream image.
I remember one time I was sitting eating my oatmeal(I was about 15) I saw a stack of gold coins on the table. I reached for them and they vanished.
I was ticked off all morning over that.

 

[iwant2believe2]

They slowly would fade as I woke up more and became more alert. But I often would walk into a wall that I saw had a doorway or reach to grab something that was a mere dream image.
I remember one time I was sitting eating my oatmeal(I was about 15) I saw a stack of gold coins on the table. I reached for them and they vanished.
I was ticked off all morning over that.

I once saw huge house sized chickens alongside the road. I was cracking up over it. Of course, I knew they weren't real but I couldnt make the sight go away and was laughing at the ridiculousness of it. Lol

 

[Dundee]

I once saw huge house sized chickens alongside the road. I was cracking up over it. Of course, I knew they weren't real but I couldnt make the sight go away and was laughing at the ridiculousness of it. Lol

Now your both making me jealous,Piles of coins and Giant chickens, haha, I would be hoping for an image of a pretty girl that didn't hate me, but I would probably get grandma from the Beverly Hillbillies with her teeth out instead, and I wouldn't be able to wake up!!!

 

[iwant2believe2]

Now your both making me jealous,Piles of coins and Giant chickens, haha, I would be hoping for an image of a pretty girl that didn't hate me, but I would probably get grandma from the Beverly Hillbillies with her teeth out instead, and I wouldn't be able to wake up!!!

Lol Well, with an REM intrusion, you are not asleep.

Another time I was driving on the interstate and suddenly found myself driving under the spread legs of giant male dancers clad in tights (please no Freudian analysis here lol) and alongside the road were huge Disney-like tea cups dancing in accompaniment. Needless to say I pulled off and drove no more the rest of the night.

 

[Dundee]

Lol Well, with an REM intrusion, you are not asleep.

Another time I was driving on the interstate and suddenly found myself driving under the spread legs of giant male dancers clad in tights (please no Freudian analysis here lol) and alongside the road were huge Disney-like tea cups dancing in accompaniment. Needless to say I pulled off and drove no more the rest of the night.

God 22, has there ever been a time in your life where you just said, hey this is fun, and were tempted to sit back end just enjoy the trip. I know your making light of it, I imagine there are many stories that were not so fun. But boy. Your right, there are acid tripper out there that are now crying with envy, I am not an Acid tripper, but..I think that was a tear of envy I just felt sneak down my cheek

 

[iwant2believe2]

God 22, has there ever been a time in your life where you just said, hey this is fun, and were tempted to sit back end just enjoy the trip. I know your making light of it, I imagine there are many stories that were not so fun. But boy. Your right, there are acid tripper out there that are now crying with envy, I am not an Acid tripper, but..I think that was a tear of envy I just felt sneak down my cheek

Yes I can't help but laugh at some of things my mind projects out into the real world. Absolutely ridiculous. lol Even more ridiculous are the things I do...especially when I don't just see these images but interact with them as well...like nuking a brand new box of swifty wet wipes for lunch...or draping my blankets and sheets over the neighbor's car and then accusing everyone in the house of stealing my blankets the next morning. Or having conversations with someone next to me before realizing there's no one there. Or being unable to recall the names of common objects like shoes. On numerous occasions I have been found laying face down in odd places like the kitchen floor with weird objects in my outstretched hands like batteries, toilet bowl cleaners, etc. God only knows why or what I was doing. I have been found in parking lots, closets, under tables, in cabinets, on toilets, in bathtubs and at the ripe age of 6 was briefly the subject of a manhunt until I was found under the back seat of the school bus...where I had spent the entire day at the bus garage before the bus cleaner found me. I have to laugh at these things because there are also many things that are terrifying.

 

[Dundee]

Yes I can't help but laugh at some of things my mind projects out into the real world. Absolutely ridiculous. lol Even more ridiculous are the things I do...especially when I don't just see these images but interact with them as well...like nuking a brand new box of swifty wet wipes for lunch...or draping my blankets and sheets over the neighbor's car and then accusing everyone in the house of stealing my blankets the next morning. Or having conversations with someone next to me before realizing there's no one there. Or being unable to recall the names of common objects like shoes. On numerous occasions I have been found laying face down in odd places like the kitchen floor with weird objects in my outstretched hands like batteries, toilet bowl cleaners, etc. God only knows why or what I was doing. I have been found in parking lots, closets, under tables, in cabinets, on toilets, in bathtubs and at the ripe age of 6 was briefly the subject of a manhunt until I was found under the back seat of the school bus...where I had spent the entire day at the bus garage before the bus cleaner found me. I have to laugh at these things because there are also many things that are terrifying.

What an interesting yet scary life. What do your kids think, they laugh and just say, "Lookout Mums off again" No sign of it in your kids?

 

[iwant2believe2]

I will tell you something I do enjoy and Soul might have experienced this too. Reading stories are difficult for me. I love to read and always have but over the years it has become harder to read novels. I get about a paragraph in and whatever character or scene I am reading on the page suddenly projects into real space. For instance, if I were reading Lord of the Rings and the paragraph was about Frodo then Frodo would be standing before me just as if he really were there. Now, that can be fun. I can briefly interact but if I do my comprehension of the words I'm reading fades and Frodo would be gone. But if I fall asleep at the moment he appears, as I often do, then Frodo and the story will continue on in a dreamscape of my own making. So, that is fun but makes it very difficult to get through a book. I usually just give up in frustration.

 

[Dundee]

I take it you don't read Stephen King then....hang on, how do you do all the paranormal research you do, and not die of fright. Jesus I am getting nervous just thinking about those implications.

 

[iwant2believe2]

What an interesting yet scary life. What do your kids think, they laugh and just say, "Lookout Mums off again" No sign of it in your kids?

Thankfully no...and my daughter did undergo a sleep study but tested negative for narcolepsy. Turns out she is just a lazy teenager. lol

The kids like to tease me. If they know I'm in a 'state', they try to get me talking just to see what absurd things they can get me to say. Those who know me well enough can detect when I am 'off' if they pay attention because my eyes, though open, will gloss over, focus in and out and my speech slurs and gets real slow. My entire thought process slows to a crawl. Or if they see me suddenly jump and gasp with a shiver then they know I am coming out of an episode. They say the look on my face is one of terror and I believe it.

 

[iwant2believe2]

I take it you don't read Stephen King then....hang on, how do you do all the paranormal research you do, and not die of fright. Jesus I am getting nervous just thinking about those implications.

Read every King book in print when I was a kid. The Talisman was my favorite.

 

[Dundee]

Lazy Teenager, hmmm yes, I have had four of them, still got one, although they don't live with me now.
I have 2 sons who do weird sleep things.
One of them when young would wake up, but be still in a dream, you could talk, interact, question everything, all mid dream, and he would be talking to you as if you were part of it, however, I learned that this always meant he needed a night time toilet visit. I would always lead him to the loo as he has, at times, peed in a pot plant, a wardrobe, the flip top bin, down a staircase from the top step and on his big brothers head, that's just the ones I have caught. But oddly he will be mid dream, right up until the toilet visit, the second he is done, he is awake, no recollection of the dream, and not scared.

I also have another son who since the age of about six speaks in other languages in his sleep. But can only speak English while awake, (well Australian, that's sort of English )
So far I have heard what appears to be Russian, Middle eastern, maybe Arabic? and German. (or similar sounding) One night his brother came in and sad, Dad, Zack's singing in German again. He is the one with a lovely partner now and a son. And yes, his partner reports his night time multilingual chats too.

Back to my first son, I suffer from terrible dreams, have for years now, it is awful. Shrink now tells me as well as Mild Asbergers I also have PTSD, which I find embarrassing as I thought only soldiers had the likes had the right to that affliction. After what they go through who can blame them. Anyway my dreams range from at best disturbing, at worst wake up in a sweat with my heart racing and cant go back to bed. But with the lesser ones, there is a correlation between myself needing a night time toilet visit and the bad dream. Once I go I am OK for a while. And although it is the dream that will wake me, it is then I realize I need a visit to the loo.
But my nightmares, whoaaa some are right out of Stephen Kings mind, they are horrible.
I will tell you of one in a bit. arghhh awful

 

[Dundee]

Read every King book in print when I was a kid. The Talisman was my favorite.

My God you are a brave one

 

[iwant2believe2]

Night is my Hell, Sleep my tormenting Angel ~Coleridge

 

[Dundee]

One recent nightmare...
It started out OK, I was showing two girls (that I don't know) through a house, everything felt normal, house was old but nice, in suburbia. We walked room to room and when we got to the kitchen (oooh I just got goosebumps recalling this)
I became aware that it looked different, I was not sure what was going on, but it was now an old farm kitchen with an old cast iron stove set in a big old brick chimney with an old wooden mantle. Still not scared but wondering why the kitchen was not as I remember, the house started to shake. I thought, oh an earth tremor. But the shaking got worse and worse, doors started to shake things fell of shelves,. At this point I realized I felt a demonic presence, my only thought was to get the two girls safe. I cant remember why I couldn't but for some reason I could get them out. I tried so hard but cant remember why not. By now the house is going nuts. I am terrified and have to run, in tear because I can't save the girls. So I run outside with doors slamming and being shaken around. Except I am now not in suburbia anymore, I am in a desert, It is hot and sandy and treeless. I run then look back at the house that is madly shaking. It is now yellow weather boards and the side wall is huge and windowless. next thing I see a yellow weather boards being pushed out like elastic in the shape of two giant hands, reaching out towards me. At this point thank god I woke up, drenched in sweat, my heart at about 200bpm. Needless to say I couldn't sleep for an hour or two.

So my dreams go from just not nice, thing like my ex cheating on me, or being made to feel like an idiot in a stupid situation. Or being unable to help someone in a bad scary situation, right through like the house one. The really bad ones though are always demonic. I varies a bit, but when it gets bad I sometimes am too scared to go to sleep. then I grab for the Valium.
OK till morning then, usually.