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  1. karl 12

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  2. nivek

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  3. nivek

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    Seriously?...So we're going PC on tombstones now?...Isn't this sort of like grave robbing?...Let the dead rest in peace...

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    Sussex music hall singers' 'racist' gravestones to be re-engraved

    A "derogatory and racist expression" will be removed from the headstones of two music hall singers. But the gravestones of G H Elliott and Alice Banford, who both wore blackface, will return to the East Sussex graveyard from where they were removed.

    They were moved from St Margaret's Church, in Rottingdean, last June due to their "offensive" inscriptions. Mark Hill QC, Chancellor of the Diocese of Chichester, has now ruled the headstones should be altered.

    It comes after the families of both singers were contacted by church officials over the re-engraving. The performers, who wore blackface up until the 1950s, died in 1962, and their headstones were erected within weeks of each other.

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    The Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick announced proposals to "retain and explain" controversial historic statues or monuments.

    However, in his judgement, Mr Hill said while there was a need to be "honest about past wrongs" and avoid "airbrushing history", the headstones had "no intrinsic heritage significance".

    He described a word on the headstones as "derogatory and racist", adding: "It evokes degrading stereotypes of people of African heritage. "It is likely to cause distress to those visiting the churchyard."

    Local concern about the gravestones was first raised in April 2019 when a resident wrote to St Margaret's complaining the word was not acceptable. The matter escalated after the toppling of the statue of slave-trader Edward Colston in Bristol last June.

    The Archdeacon for Brighton and Lewes, Martin Lloyd William, said he found the inscription on the gravestones "deeply offensive", and they were covered up before being removed.

    Mr Hill added: "Refacing and re-cutting the existing lettering to replace the derogatory term would remove the cause of offence with the least possible damage to the integrity of the headstone.

    "The mission of St Margaret's is likely to be compromised if it were perceived as condoning the continuing display of racist terminology, notwithstanding it may have been acceptable in the past."

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  4. wwkirk

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    Any pics of how they look uncovered?
     
  5. nivek

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    None that I could find, hoping someone else may find one, I'm very curious of what the gravestone's say...

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  6. Area201

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    Imagine it just says ["Blackface" Performer] and that's the offensive word?
     
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  7. Area201

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    She tells him he hasn't read the Constitution, but she fails to read the policy on the front door of the business.
     
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    This is the headstone for Alice Branford and G H Elliott.


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  10. nivek

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    Granted it's an ugly term due to its implications today however the date on the gravestone should be enough to give it proper context...It's an old gravestone let the past die, people shouldn't be that sensitive, yet here we are...I wouldn't have even known what was said on those gravestones has it not been for this story, I wonder how many people per year actually physically visit that particular spot in the cemetery where the words engraved could be read...I am not one to visit past relatives or friend's burial plots on a regular basis, but I assume perhaps some people do...

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  11. August

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    We eat Coon cheese.
     
  12. August

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    Remember when they had a Chairman or a Chairwoman then it turned into Chairperson and eventually it became plain old Chair. [​IMG]
     
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  13. wwkirk

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    From Wikipedia:

    "On 13 January 2021, the chair and CEO of Saputo Inc. announced that "Coon" cheese was to be rebranded as "Cheer" cheese, the new name scheduled to be launched in July 2021.[9] The name was chosen to signify happiness."
     
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  18. Jim_from_the_South

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    Not sure if they would even allow me to live in the States anymore. I saw a rerun of Pawn Shop Stars, in which Rick is trying to hire a night clerk. Grandpa asked an applicant if he had any kids, since he felt that if he did, he would need to make money to feed them. And it relates to possible job absences. . Rick told him that according to Nevada law you can't ask those types of questions or anything not absolutely job related. Sigh. I would not fit in for sure.
     
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  19. JahaRa

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    Why not, because you think those questions are relevant to a job interview? Where do you live? (just curious)
     
  20. Jim_from_the_South

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    My thoughts were not based upon relevance, just upon the length of time (20 yrs) since I had a business or lived in the US, and how things have changed.

    At one time I would have felt them relevant, yes, but only to see if there were issues involving absences - I had 58 employees and some experience, and since most of them were very nice ladies, I am aware of how often they are forced to leave or start late because their husbands were not able to care for the kids or some doctors thing came up with them.

    So yes, I would have still hired them, and did, but I would have kept it in mind. I hired every one of them, so there was no prejudice involved, but I needed to know where potential shortages in coverage might come into play. I had ten offices with about four in each, (and a home office that I worked out of) and they needed four to perform their jobs. So if they were short, I would get in my car and go help that office out for the day. I now live in Costa Rica.
     
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