Times are Strange. A friend of mine commited armed robery.

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  1. Shadowprophet

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    This is a weird story, I'm apparently friends with an armed burglar, And Remain so,
    Hear me out.

    Yeah I know, All my posts lately have been this deeply reflective somewhat sappy shit. I know, From an outside perspective it seems boring, But times have been weird lately, That tends to make a person think.

    My life isn't as boring as my reflective introspected stuff., So, one of my friends, Committed Armed robbery last night, Yeah, I know, I sure can pick em, But, Before you think birds of a feather.

    Listen to my story, Oh, But first, here is the Video,



    So this Guy, His name is Spencer, He's a lot younger than me, I've known him since I moved to the town I live in now, He never knew his parents, The old woman that adopted him, Was his whole world, But she died two years ago. After she died, He got really bad on drugs.., He showed up at my house one day with some other friends of mine, Spencer didn't have many friends, as he would go on to tell me The girls were not his flavor and the guys were all kind of homophobic around him. So the poor dude had a pretty hard life...

    Now, Even though this is an armed robbery, I know this kid, He would not have shot anyone. But then, I wouldn't have suspected that he would ever commit armed robbery.

    This guy, Came to my home and mowed my lawn for me for free all summer long when I cut my foot up in that lawn mower accident. This kid took Christmas presents to poor families and food too, To people who were having tough times. This Kid would have given anyone the shirt off his back without even asking.

    If there was ever a person that I was sure, Was a good person, It's Spencer.

    Did the drugs do this to him?

    He did this thing, And most people would call it right there and give up on him, But I won't. I know this Kid, He's a good person, This was some sort of terrible mistake. I don't know why he did this. But I know he didn't do it because he was a bad person. I'm telling you I know Spencer, All it would have taken would be for someone to say, My baby needs formula and I can't feed my kids, And he would do anything to help those people.

    This is the kind of person, Spencer has been, The kind of person I have seen him be to others. yes, That is him in that video.

    I don't understand why he did this, But I know that this time, The crime was committed by a Good person.
    I'm conflicted, Should I still be this guys friend? I want to be. He's never been anything but kind to me.
     
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  2. pigfarmer

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    Maybe a character witness would be of some help. As armed robberies go it seems one of the more polite ones. Good thing he didn't accidentally shoot someone or encounter an armed store owner.
     
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  3. Shadowprophet

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    It's hard to process really, I never saw this coming, But yes, I've thought about testifying as a character witness. But, I will need to talk to his lawyer, In the state, I live in, They only allow Character witness in a grand jury trial. In Kentucky, We are what they call a common Wealth State, What this means legally is we govern our own laws,

    Ultimately, He will be pulled into a room and spoken too by his lawyer and the judge, They will show him the Tape, And say it's a closed case that he is Guilty, "Now You would think, asserting Guilt before a Trial would be a Crime" Commonwealth states. There are only three of them in the united states. They Cut corners and Red Tape all throughout the legal process to Save the State Money. He Will be pulled into a room To profess his Guilt, He will be encouraged to do so because his penalty will be less severe if he cooperates with them. He Can, Call For A Grand Jury Trial. But as you would imagine, In a Common Wealth State there is a Twist to this As well. While A Grand Jury Trial is supposed to be the fairest possible expression of Justice in most States, In commonwealth states, It's just a Show the Legal process has to perform and they do so begrudgingly. If he Calls for a Grand Jury, And is found Guilty, "And He will be" His punishment will be the Maximum allowed by law. Because he did not Cooperate with the system And Fought Against the " Common Wealth/ Common Consent/ Common Will of the people" That May sound unfair, But ironically, That is literally The Law In Common Wealth States.
     
  4. pepe

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    I jumped the counter at a local fuel station and went after Zeffa because he wouldn't give me his name. I took some engine oil back that my girlfriend had purchased, in order to swap it for the right one. At this point in my life I was as stressed out as can be. Zeffa said I can't because it is open already as he quite blatantly cracked the seal in front of me. I demanded his name and he covered his badge as if it were now a sport.

    Got nicked and the cctv to was that good, they saw old Zeffa open it.

    Just a caution and a new job for Z.
     
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  5. Shadowprophet

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    That's the whole of us. None are perfect, We all do things sometimes we wish we had done differently, Or things we wish we could take back, When I see What Justice is, In modern times, Justice is a monster, It has Teeth and Claws. The idea of right and wrong is no longer decided by the actions or nonactions of another, right and wrong are decided by an authoritative figure, Most usually, No person or small group of people will be perfect, They will possess biases flaws in their judgments. In today's world brother Pepe, There are a bloodthirsty people screaming for justice and retribution but they do this because times are so unjust, The economy worldwide is almost at collapse, Division among the people has never been so rampant in over half a century. People are scared and angry, Hungry and sick, The world is suffering and there is no grey area anymore, There is Guilty and innocent.

    I have faith, That society won't always be this unstable, And times will improve, Just as it always has in the past. But for now, We must suffer a dangerous and frightened society that has their eyes shut. So they can't see the injustices their governments carry out worldwide.
     
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  6. pepe

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    I am ok with harsh punishment for ill behaviour and the sacrificial lamb of the system's failure.

    In fact I think I accept and often expect corruption as part of the blueprint to progress. Every aspect of being has a hint of shit that fortunately I see with a comical minds eye.

    One against the other has been ever present in our progression to the now and we fight against that senario just like we fought against the other in times gone by.

    US and them +1. I love it, I hate it. But more importantly, I love to hate it which doesn't mean I hate to love it.
     
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    I think we are doing really well and have a cause that is not specific to right and wrong but is purely focused on moving on the fastest way achievable. Shortest path of least resistance.

    Time being the reason for such blindness, an invisible fabric that gives reason for action. Little to the left and a little to the right does not mean having control of our velocity. Will slow it just a little though, just enough to give the impression of almost total control.

    It's a set up and perfect in terms of illusion.

    Dynamo.
     
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    Society is rock solid as it has no comparison.

    What ever happens it will be new and with only the path trodden to compare, it then becomes natural. That is what a lot of people frustrate over.

    Imagine if you will, the possibility of a tangible force for bad actually being eradicated and then a time of utter purity thereafter.

    One rotten apple is all it would take to square one it.

    Still no harm in fighting for peace though hay.
     
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    The insignificance of the individual who has the sense of importance through being unique is a masterpiece with no lose ends for the prying eye.

    A done deal that leaves us with only one hope, that is seen throughout our Kingdom, a sense of a recycling nature. It is natural to carry this process into the mind and see a likeness to our life and death deal.

    I don't know what that has to do with daylight robbery but I am higher than a Nepalees sherpa, so with that taken into account it is quite a reasonable statement.
     
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  10. pigfarmer

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    On a AE related note - and not related to your friend - doesn't this just show that people you know are capable of behavior that's totally unexpected? Really unexpected? A human factor to consider when evaluating claims of strange experiences.
     
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    How many types to our kind ?

    People are driven by reason only seen by the same kind, I have lived a time of degradation and now see how at that time I managed to see things with the same reason as I do now. Contrasting character but with the same ethical sense of justification for action, due to circumstance.

    I am privileged to recognise this and don't thank myself but do applaud us all for coping in such a world of difference. Think about how things could be without our temperances.

    Look for the silver lining and you will see one, if you don't bother to, you simply won't see it.
     
  12. pigfarmer

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    I didn't come from the most stellar background myself and do understand how people can be driven to do things that are difficult for others to understand, and also that you can justify this behavior to yourself at the time. Maybe later you will cringe over it. But I think this facet of human nature is in the same church, different pew, as those who put forth claims that are difficult to believe and then stand behind them because it's giving them what they want at the time.

    I work with a man who is very nice, extremely personable but has some of the weirdest damned quirks I have ever encountered - and believe me, I have encountered many many many. He's a pathological liar and is quite convincing. Here's a for instance - he claims to speak multiple languages and doesn't. WTF ? I've seen him in some of the most ridiculous encounters imaginable because of this - and he's managed to really piss a few people off in the process. No idea what his problem is; personality, some problem with a six syllable name, who the hell knows. My interaction with him is limited and I like him. Wouldn't trust him, but I don't need or want to. At a minimum watching him in action can be extremely entertaining. There's more to speaking Japanese than blurting out Japanese-ish sounding stuff, I'm just saying. :)

    I shave with Occam's razor (mostly) every day so when it comes to evaluating all the strange claims we hear I never fail to consider that human psychology is a more likely source than anything else. Don't misunderstand - I also think that people are quite capable of blurting out the literal truth about outrageous things too. That's what makes this very interesting to me - trying to separate the wheat from the chaff.
     
  13. Shadowprophet

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    Quick Update on Spencer, He has cooperated with authorities, and Pled Guilty, It turns out the Gun wasn't even a real Gun, It was a toy stopper gun. His charge has been dropped to aggravated burglary. Which is still 15 years, But, He can serve that time in a Jail instead of a prison, Which is much much better.
     
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    15 years! How old is he now?
     
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    He is 19,

    He's thrown his life away, Don't get me wrong, I think he's still a good person and I'm still his friend,

    But,

    he threw his life away. It's sad.
     
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    There's still hope for him. Especially if he's paroled relatively early.
     
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