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Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by nivek, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Thomas R. Morrison

    Thomas R. Morrison Unapologetic Rationalist & Grand Inquisitor

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    Of course you did. I posted about it (link below) in a response to you on November 14th, and have tried repeatedly to get a comment from you about it, but you've always demured, and you're still evading the question. I'm increasingly convinced that you're totally incapable of independent thought.

    Ad hominem attacks are still a logical fallacy btw - it's what weak-minded people do when they can't formulate a rational argument.

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  2. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    Ok - congratulations; Hannah McRoberts (along with Paul Trent) are the only two people to walk the face of the Earth that snapped pictures (with probably a camera from the 1940's & 1980'ish) of a genuine flying saucer from another planet.

    Any photograph where the photographer says "I didn't see anything at the time I took the photo" (but they see something now on the developed film) is garbage. But nice try. Thomas R. Morrison. I can guess what the "R" stands for.
     
  3. Thomas R. Morrison

    Thomas R. Morrison Unapologetic Rationalist & Grand Inquisitor

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    So what you're really saying is "the data is irrelevant and I'll resort to any excuse that I can find to dismiss it, if it suggests something anomalous operating in our airspace."

    That kind of bankrupt and flagrantly biased perspective is every bit as slavish and cultish as the "true believers" who think that every plane in the sky is an alien vehicle. Chances are that you just saw an image of an alien craft and are too blinded by your own bias to even see it right before your eyes. It's a perfectly reasonable possibility that the object was only within the frame of her camera view for a fleeting moment, and got captured because of the high shutter speed associated with a bright mid-day photograph.

    Congratulations - you're a "true disbeliever," and your entire reasoning process is thereby crippled beyond all recognition.

    I also shared this video footage in the UFO videos thread, which appears to be even more compelling than the Hannah Roberts photo (which also clearly shows a structured craft - exactly what you've been crying for over and over again here and at The Paracast forums for years...disingenuously, we can all now see). I'm sure you'll have some pathetic and intellectually vacant excuse to dismiss this as well:

     
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  4. The shadow

    The shadow The shadow knows!

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    france1910.jpg
    France 1910
     
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  5. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    Garbage photo & garbage "evidence". That's why I never heard of the case, because the case sucks & everyone knows its a joke. Hey! I photographed the same flying saucer Hannah did earlier today!

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  6. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    That could be the underside of one of these showing in your image:

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  7. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    I could only see your pic if I hit "reply" for whatever reason :/
     
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  8. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Weird, how about now?...

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  9. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    Yes, now the picture shows in your original post :)
     
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  10. Thomas R. Morrison

    Thomas R. Morrison Unapologetic Rationalist & Grand Inquisitor

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    You’ve become a parody of the typical wannabe "debunker” type that Stanton Friedman loves to mock so much. Look at his breakdown of their empty-headed “fake skepticism” tactics, and then compare them to your own behavior here:

    “I’ve often pointed out that the four basic rules for debunkers, no matter what the subject, are the same. That is:

    1) Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind’s made up. (check)
    2) What the public doesn’t know I’m not going to tell them. (you don't have any inside knowledge so this doesn't apply)
    3) If you can’t attack the data, attack the people. (check)
    4) Do your research by proclamation, investigation is too much trouble.” (check)

    Unlike yourself, I’ve actually done some reading up on the Hannah McRoberts case. In fact I only bothered with it because at the time I thought that your pleas for a legitimate UFO photograph were genuine, and not just a duplicitous and disingenuous ploy - which is now clear to everyone here.

    Dr. Richard Haines published a 19-page scientific analysis of the photograph in Dr. Peter Sturrock’s respected 1999 book on this subject, “The UFO Enigma.” I highly recommend Dr. Haines’s analysis to anyone who wants to see how a proper empirical analysis is conducted by a highly respected NASA research scientist – and anyone who wants to question his standing as a scientist can eat dirt here. All of his findings are consistent with a legitimate anomalous object in that photograph. Here’s a link to his analysis of the Hannah McRoberts photographic negatives and the related data:

    Analysis of a UFO Photograph. By Richard F. Haines | Camera | Exposure (Photography)

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to go have a good chuckle at how perfectly you fit the criterion for Stanton Friedman’s caricature of a typical intellectually dishonest and analytically bankrupt wannabe “debunker,” lol.
     
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  11. wwkirk

    wwkirk Celestial

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    I too can only see it after clicking reply.
     
  12. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Intermission. Perhaps some kitten videos are in order
     
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  13. Castle-Yankee54

    Castle-Yankee54 Celestial

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    Well done.....those look more like UFOs that some images I've seen.

    Actually I recall a cat shaped balloon UFO from AU......lol.
     
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  14. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    Blah blah blah.....tell me another fairy tale grandpa (or at least post another goofy, ridiculous looking flying saucer picture).
     
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  15. pigfarmer

    pigfarmer tall, thin, irritable

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    Jesus, don't make me resort to baby donkeys....
     
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  16. Kaipo

    Kaipo Adept

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    Geez man, talk about blindly skeptical - you take 1st prize - is there any case/photo/video/abduction you hold out as 'could be aliens'? If not then why are you on a Alien/UFO forum?
     
  17. Creepy Green Light

    Creepy Green Light Don't mistake lack of talent for genius

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    I went from a true believer to a skeptical believer. As I've repeated multiple times on AE, starting in 1979 I pretty much believed every classic case and was a champion of them. Then slowly but surely over time, each one of those cases fell apart. The last holdout that I had where I believed it was a flying saucer was the Coyne Army helicopter case. But that one has been figured out (to my satisfaction). Then some cases I believe something happened, but it wasn't a flying saucer (like Roswell & Socorro).

    And I'm on here because I do believe aliens and their spacecraft exist - but I don't believe there is any proof of them visiting the Earth. I've been wanting it to be true since 1979 & its frustrating. And part of me is jaded because of all the years I believed in these cases & stood up for them.
     
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  18. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    those are all very weak points, there are more similarities between the objects than differences, we can even use your comparison you did earlier in the thread, the similarity is obvious
    anyway i think this case is a dead horse
    at least the mcroberts case has a very detailed UFO wich seems to even feature a chair inside the cockpit, so i obviously would take this one more seriously
     
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  19. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    actually now that i think about it, where is the chain of custody to the nellis air force base footage?
    even zondo and his gang of clowns are ignoring that footage....
     
  20. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    very unconclusive, i would think due to the age of the picture that its a scratch in the image or something similar
     
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