UFOs: skeptics, disclosure, and contact

michael59

Celestial
I only skimmed through this thread because if I hang around to long I just get angry. I never understood that same old tired question, why would they bother coming here. They come here for the same reason we are frothing at the mouth and tripping all over each other to get out there.
 

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
This is why I think they are here --originally posted about a year ago:

It might be useful to think of the phenomenon as some sort of "advanced non-human technology" and avoid the "ET" term altogether. Maybe it is possible that some intelligence found us before we found them; if it is more advanced and within range or was able to detect us somehow, we would be an attractive place to send devices to observe this oasis of life. We have a vast diversity of life that has evolved on this planet and has created so many different biomes and evolved in so many different ways in the midst of large parts of the galaxy that are vacant of life or don't seem to have highly complex life. Perhaps this is the only place within the range of the intelligence, that has life. I think curiosity might be a universal fundament of life, regardless of how or where it develops, and the need to explore and expand might be somewhat universal.
For me, there seems to be certain patterns of behavior that the phenomenon has exhibited over time, and I think that whatever it is, it has been here for a very long time. The "flash and dash" tactics, isolating people or small groups of people in "road encounters", the mass sightings where many are exposed to their displays before they shoot off and leave... Showy maneuvers around weapons testing and nuclear sites... Once you can establish the same type of phenomenon behaving in a controlled manner before we were flying around in the atmosphere --then I think there is no way to put a limit on how far back the phenomenon has been with us. At this point the objects may not be coming in from space on a regular basis, having had ample time to infiltrate the oceans, and other places on the planet, but if I may be allowed to brandish Occam's Razor momentarily, I think it is likely that wherever / whenever they originally came from, it is likely to be physically removed from this planet --even if they are coming from some sort of spacetime portal or something we can't even understand yet. I think the reason the Air Force has been so silent and others whine about sensors being compromised, is because UFOs are seen to be coming in from space periodically, and they seem to be coming in from space in many of the old accounts too; dropping in like shooting stars and then stopping dead in the air and moving off to do their thing. I am further inclined towards this explanation, as with my second sighting the capsule-shaped object / Tic Tac did fly off into space..
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
If one goes through a lots of UFO cases one will find that around 50% of cases where UFOs landed they are looking for things on the ground. Probably plants, insects, soil samples etc.

That gives us a clue why are they here. They are mostly just doing science and watching things. That's why they never interfere in our affairs, like politics, wars, natural disasters etc. One might say that there are hundreds of planets like ours, so they just go from one planet to other and keep an eye on progress.

From their point of view we are not as important as we are from our own point of view.
 
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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
This is mega good witness report. Guy did such a 1st class job. Multiple witnesses, two time physical evidence ( sound & circle in the grass ).

Thanks for posting.

I hadn't realized this was May 1, thought it just happened. At any rate I agree. The Ring camera at least recorded the noise and boom that seemed to correlate with the body cam footage. Perfect circle in the back yard and apparently credible witnesses. I like it !!!

I looked up the AMS and didn't see an event that related to that time and date: Fireball events

Unfortunately, if it's just this report no matter how sincere the witnesses or earnest investigators there isn't much to be done with it.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I looked at James Fox's Twitter, he thinks the recent Las Vegas "landing" thing is a hoax.

How does he explain away the police body cam footage?...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
It does look like a meteor or debris and although it's possible I don't think those two cops were making anything up.

Seems to me James Fox is using the same instrument I am to analyze this case - his ass parked in a chair watching it online.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
I looked at James Fox's Twitter, he thinks the recent Las Vegas "landing" thing is a hoax.

Hoax, with so many independent witnesses and material evidence?

It does look like a meteor or debris and although it's possible I don't think those two cops were making anything up.

"meteor or debris" don't make circles in the grass. Not to mention 8ft tall aliens.

If it was "meteor or debris" there would be a debris field all strawmen up and somebody calling firemen and police to clean up. But the sound of it, it must had "fallen" in a heavily built up area. But even it had fallen in outskirts, debris should still be available. Its only 1 months ago.

Absence of debries contributes to conclusion it was UFO.
 

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95i9m5B2NFY


I'm right now listening to live podcast in which Dr. Michael Anderson from Lawrence Livermore National Lab was doing presentation about how LLNL is right now making prototypes for Warp Drive generator, that is running currents on order of 4.0 MA and creating magnetic fields on order of 5,000 Tesla. For comparison 100 A is a lot, and Neodimium magnets produce about 1.0 Tesla.

Practically, disclosure is slowly coming up with parallel practical publicly funded research on creating a physical Warp Drive, which is the main type of propulsion for UFOs. So much so for officialdom not believing UFOs are real :) . Its more like "we'll make disclosure when Warp Drive is ready".

By the way, bye, bye Elon :)
 
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Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
I doubt it is an operation to ferret out leakers by providing outrageous information to those with the highest clearances. Over at Metabunk they seen to think that by providing tenuous connectikns to Hal Puttoff and the usual suspects that he is just rehashing what others have already said, and i don't think that's the case. What he claims (which would dovetail nicely with the Admiral Wilson conversation), has been found to be credible and "urgent". Hopefully there will be the ability to investigate his claims which require a Title 50 clearance...
He could go to jail for lying about this stuff. Going to be a truly bizarre upcoming hearing.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UuEPO7DFxqc
 
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