UFOs: skeptics, disclosure, and contact

Todd Feinman

Todd Feinman

Show us the satellite pics...
They are so close-minded and filled with narcissistic vitriol over at the Bunk. I hope Grusch is telling the truth; it would do those folks some good to have their butts handed to them.
A few other highly placed folks are backing his story up! They should be forced to testify under oath.
 
Spaceman spiff

Spaceman spiff

Noble
At this point it has gone way over your normal UFO hustle. It is either a huge and most daring psy op disinfo campaign ive seen on this subject, or there is some truth to it.
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below

Pentagon UFO whistleblower claims people have been killed by 'non-human intelligences' and says US government will do ANYTHING to protect the secret​

The Pentagon whistleblower who claims the US has run a top secret UFO retrieval program for decades says some of the 'non-human intelligences' discovered are malevolent and have even killed humans. David Grusch served 14 years in the Air Force, where he says he was told about the program by others who were involved. Over the last week, he has gone public with what he says it entailed, telling NewsNation about how the US is in an arms race with Russia and China to understand the extra-terrestrial life.

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Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

Celestial
I've always believed that the US government and other nations have programs and personnel ready to respond to crashes and other incidents, they would be really dumb not to. The programs and personnel probably have other non-UFO jobs such as transporting nuclear materials and other secret stuff. After all, the same conditions of extreme security and secrecy would apply. In 2008, witnesses stated that something crashed outside Needles, California and then shadowy government troops and vehicles began coming into the area. The official answer is, they were from the federal Office of Secure Transport and they transport nuclear weapons. I don't doubt this is who they are, and they would also be good choice for responding to crash sites and transporting wreckage. They are highly qualified and nobody is going to question them or stand in their way.

www.mysterywire.com

Strange object crashes in Needles, investigation leads to secretive government agency

Twelve years ago on May, 14, 2008, something strange blazed across the sky and crashed on the banks of the Colorado River south of Needles, California. Within days, reports about the so-called Need…
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nivek

nivek

As Above So Below
Dejan Corovic

Dejan Corovic

As above, so bellow
Creepy Green Light said:
Mick makes excellent points regarding Grusch. It's all pretty outlandish IMO.

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Its very inaccurate to frame something as "outlandish" because what is "outlandish" depends on point in time. All the way to the beginning of 20th century it was believed that Milky Way was the only galaxy in the whole universe and that all the shiny dots in the night sky are just Milky Way stars. So, back then it was "outlandish" to claim that there are other galaxies in the universe. Well, today we know that large portion of the shiny dots in the nigh sky are actually distant galaxies.

Not to mention that once it was "outlandish" to claim that man can fly with aid of a machine.
 
pigfarmer

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Rick Hunter said:
I've always believed that the US government and other nations have programs and personnel ready to respond to crashes and other incidents, they would be really dumb not to. The programs and personnel probably have other non-UFO jobs such as transporting nuclear materials and other secret stuff. After all, the same conditions of extreme security and secrecy would apply. In 2008, witnesses stated that something crashed outside Needles, California and then shadowy government troops and vehicles began coming into the area. The official answer is, they were from the federal Office of Secure Transport and they transport nuclear weapons. I don't doubt this is who they are, and they would also be good choice for responding to crash sites and transporting wreckage. They are highly qualified and nobody is going to question them or stand in their way.

www.mysterywire.com

Strange object crashes in Needles, investigation leads to secretive government agency

Twelve years ago on May, 14, 2008, something strange blazed across the sky and crashed on the banks of the Colorado River south of Needles, California. Within days, reports about the so-called Need…
www.mysterywire.com www.mysterywire.com
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National Air and Space Intelligence Center Heritage
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below

Pentagon whistleblower says the Vatican is aware of the existence of non-human intelligences and helped the US retrieve a downed UFO from Italian dictator Mussolini at the end of WW2​

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A Pentagon whistleblower has claimed the Vatican is aware of the existence of non-human intelligences and helped the US retrieve a downed UFO from Italian dictator Benito Mussolini at the end of the Second World War.

He has spoken out to say the US has run a top secret UFO retrieval program for decades and claimed the 'Vatican was involved' in the first ever UFO crash.

Grusch said the first recovery of a UFO was in Magenta, Italy in 1933 and it was held by Mussolini's Italian government until 1944-1945 when Pope Pius XII tipped America off about it.

He said the UFO was partially intact and held at a secure airbase until the US retrieved it following the collapse of the fascist Italian regime.

'1933 was the first recovery in Europe, in Magenta, Italy,' he told News Nation.

'They recovered a partially intact vehicle, and the Italian government moved it to a secure airbase in Italy until around 1944-1945.

'The Pope back-channelled that, and told the Americans what the Italians had and we ended up scooping it.'

(More on the link)

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Creepy Green Light

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Dejan Corovic said:
Its very inaccurate to frame something as "outlandish" because what is "outlandish" depends on point in time. All the way to the beginning of 20th century it was believed that Milky Way was the only galaxy in the whole universe and that all the shiny dots in the night sky are just Milky Way stars. So, back then it was "outlandish" to claim that there are other galaxies in the universe. Well, today we know that large portion of the shiny dots in the nigh sky are actually distant galaxies.

Not to mention that once it was "outlandish" to claim that man can fly with aid of a machine.
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I'm not saying that visitors & spaceships from other worlds is outlandish, I'm saying what Mr. Grusch claims is outlandish considering he hasn't seen or ready a shred of any of this. It's all "well someone told me that.....blah blah blah ufo's" - all hearsay. It's not like he's claiming he himself saw/worked on any of this stuff himself.
 
nivek

nivek

As Above So Below

Las Vegas UFO mystery deepens as cops install high-tech surveillance cameras at home where residents reported seeing '10ft aliens with large shiny eyes'​

The Las Vegas UFO mystery has deepened - as police installed high-tech cameras outside the home where residents reported seeing '10ft aliens with large shiny eyes.'

Doug Poppa, a former police officer who has been following the story of the mysterious object falling from the sky, said it baffled him why the Las Vegas Metro Police Department placed surveillance cameras outside.

He interviewed the family who made the call twice - who told him that the cops installed the camera to 'protect' them from an UFO fanatics who might bother them.

Despite being skeptical, Poppa, who is a podcaster, said that he believes the family are somewhat credible.

Police bodycam footage captured a suspected UFO sighting in Las Vegas - after residents reported seeing '10ft aliens with large shiny eyes' in their backyard.

Doug Poppa interviewed the family who made the call twice - who told him that the cops installed the camera to 'protect' them from an UFO fanatics who might bother them


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pigfarmer

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Creepy Green Light said:
I'm not saying that visitors & spaceships from other worlds is outlandish, I'm saying what Mr. Grusch claims is outlandish considering he hasn't seen or ready a shred of any of this. It's all "well someone told me that.....blah blah blah ufo's" - all hearsay. It's not like he's claiming he himself saw/worked on any of this stuff himself.
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He certainly sounds credible enough but who the hell knows. He's either an attention seeking kook, which doesn't seem likely, or acting under orders saying these things deliberately as part of some maskirovka. That also seems unlikely but not impossible. Or, he might be just what he appears to be ......

Notice how the Daily Mail just rolled this story, the LV sighting and AARO into one article? Like collecting slivers of soap.
 
Rick Hunter

Rick Hunter

Celestial
nivek said:

Las Vegas UFO mystery deepens as cops install high-tech surveillance cameras at home where residents reported seeing '10ft aliens with large shiny eyes'​

The Las Vegas UFO mystery has deepened - as police installed high-tech cameras outside the home where residents reported seeing '10ft aliens with large shiny eyes.'

Doug Poppa, a former police officer who has been following the story of the mysterious object falling from the sky, said it baffled him why the Las Vegas Metro Police Department placed surveillance cameras outside.

He interviewed the family who made the call twice - who told him that the cops installed the camera to 'protect' them from an UFO fanatics who might bother them.

Despite being skeptical, Poppa, who is a podcaster, said that he believes the family are somewhat credible.

Police bodycam footage captured a suspected UFO sighting in Las Vegas - after residents reported seeing '10ft aliens with large shiny eyes' in their backyard.

Doug Poppa interviewed the family who made the call twice - who told him that the cops installed the camera to 'protect' them from an UFO fanatics who might bother them'protect' them from an UFO fanatics who might bother them


(More on the link)

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Well, this is in Nevada, home of the Extraterrestrial Highway. I would imagine they have a higher proportion of believers than most other states. In any event, the aliens or whoever are breaking the law.
 
Creepy Green Light

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Rick Hunter said:
Well, this is in Nevada, home of the Extraterrestrial Highway. I would imagine they have a higher proportion of believers than most other states. In any event, the aliens or whoever are breaking the law.
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The only times I've seen houses with that type of security pole/system are those on drug dealers houses/stash houses so that they can monitor who is around their house (looking out for police) but who knows. At least they claim 10 ft tall instead of the typical little grey alien. 10 ft tall and in Nevada sounds like a bear standing on it's back legs.
 
Creepy Green Light

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Todd Feinman said:

View: https://imgur.com/a/LGL3WcL

From Metabunk:
www.metabunk.org

David Grusch's DOPSR Cleared Statement and IG Complaint

CLEARED For Open Publication Apr 04 2023 Department of Defense OFFICE OF PREPUBLICAITON AND SECURITY REVIEW Mr. David C. Grusch About the Author. Mr Grush has served as an intelligence officer for over 14 years, first as an U.S. Air Force officer attending the rank of major but also as a...
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Right, which makes it even more weird. The intelligence community had to read & approve what he was going to say before he said it? Makes no sense to me but who knows?
 
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