Wars & Rumours of Wars

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Russian warlord threatens Kremlin military officials for alleged attack on his troops

Russian military officials have denied attacking the mercenary Wagner Group, as the force’s founder and leader promises revenge and threatens to "resolve" the conflict.

In a series of audio clips on Russian social media site VKontakte (VK), Wagner’s chief Yevgeny Prigozhin first accused Russia’s defense ministry of authorizing an attack against his forces and made several promises of retaliation.

Prigozhin claimed his camp came under fire from a "massive" missile attack, Kyiv Post reported. He also posted a video that he claimed showed the aftermath of the attack, which he said killed a "huge amount" of his troops at multiple camps.

He promised that he would punish "everyone" involved in the alleged strikes against his forces.

The Defense Ministry responded to the claims in a Telegram post, saying, "All the messages and video footage distributed on social networks on behalf of E. Prigozhin about the alleged ‘strike by the RF Ministry of Defense on the rear camps of PMC Wagner’ are untrue and are an informational provocation."


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AD1184

Celestial
The situation is now rather more acute, with Wagner attempting a coup:



The American policy with regards to Ukraine is seemingly that a protracted and unwinnable conflict there will lead Russia to tear itself apart. That seems to be working. Let's just hope that it doesn't get completely out of hand.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Have fun, Biden sad " . . . that balloon that I shot" ( over US ), so it wasn't US Air Force doing that, it was Biden flying the plane:


Yeah, the Saudis said about the same thing. For some strange reason the garbage that falls out of politician's mouths for public consumption doesn't sit well with some. Moral outrage and finger wagging one day, hat in hand looking for oil or some new conflict to pump arms into the next.
 

nivek

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Wagner forces head to Moscow as tanks are spotted on highways and oil depot goes up in flames as militia's chief Prigozhin mocks Putin call for 'traitors' to give themselves up


Footage on social media has shown large convoys of troops heading north from Voronezh, thought to be Wagner mercenaries, as they vow to take Moscow and install a new President. Prigozhin and his feared 25,000-strong Wagner militia have control of the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don, saying they are 'ready to die' as they vow revenge for a military strike from Putin's forces that the mercenary leader says killed some of his men. The unit has also passed through the halfway city of Voronezh as they advance on Moscow, seeing negligible resistance. A huge oil depot was seen bursting into flames in the city, with a helicopter in the air at the time. Russia has responded by increasing security in Moscow, mobilising troops who are set to defend against the incursion, and calling for the military to rally around President Putin.

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nivek

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Grim-faced Putin blasts Wagner chief Prigozhin for 'stabbing him in the back' and threatens severe punishment - with Moscow going into red alert for a coup


Vladimir Putin has called Wagner chief Yvegney Prigozhin's military coup 'treason' as he addressed the Russian people on Saturday. Moscow is in lockdown amid growing fears of a military coup as Yvegney Prigozhin and his feared 25,000-strong Wagner militia take control of the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don, saying they are 'ready to die' as they vow revenge for a military strike from Putin's forces that the mercenary leader says killed some of his men. All public events have been cancelled in the Russian capital as Vladimir Putin prepares to take to TV in a bid to affirm his increasingly shaky grip on power. Prigozhin issued a new message at about 7:30am Saturday Moscow time saying his men have infiltrated the Southern Defense Command in Rostov-on-Don and that the city's airfield was under his control.

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nivek

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'We are turning back': Wagner chief sensationally agrees to END his mercenary group's march on Moscow following emergency negotiations - after Russian military desperately rushed to build defences around the capital

Wagner chief sensationally agrees to END his mercenary group's march on Moscow
Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has confirmed he has ordered his mercenaries to halt their march on Moscow and retreat to their field camps in Ukraine to avoid shedding Russian blood. 'We are turning back our columns and leave in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan,' an audio message on his Telegram feed said. The announcement from Yevgeny Prigozhin appeared to defuse a growing crisis. Moscow had braced for the arrival of the private army led by the rebellious commander. And President Vladimir Putin had vowed he would face harsh consequences. Prigozhin said that while his men are just 200 kilometers (120 miles) from Moscow, he decided to turn them back to avoid 'shedding Russian blood.' He didn't say whether the Kremlin has responded to his demand to oust Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. There was no immediate comment from the Kremlin.

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wwkirk

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'We are turning back': Wagner chief sensationally agrees to END his mercenary group's march on Moscow following emergency negotiations - after Russian military desperately rushed to build defences around the capital

Wagner chief sensationally agrees to END his mercenary group's march on Moscow's march on Moscow
Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin has confirmed he has ordered his mercenaries to halt their march on Moscow and retreat to their field camps in Ukraine to avoid shedding Russian blood. 'We are turning back our columns and leave in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan,' an audio message on his Telegram feed said. The announcement from Yevgeny Prigozhin appeared to defuse a growing crisis. Moscow had braced for the arrival of the private army led by the rebellious commander. And President Vladimir Putin had vowed he would face harsh consequences. Prigozhin said that while his men are just 200 kilometers (120 miles) from Moscow, he decided to turn them back to avoid 'shedding Russian blood.' He didn't say whether the Kremlin has responded to his demand to oust Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. There was no immediate comment from the Kremlin.

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So, will Prigozhin be tried and executed or just assassinated?
 

nivek

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So, will Prigozhin be tried and executed or just assassinated?

Exiled...

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Wagner coup fails: Prigozhin abandons march on Moscow and will be EXILED to Belarus as Kremlin says there'll be no regime change in the Russian military despite armed mutiny from mercenary group


Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin will be exiled to Belarus and face no charges for his mercenary group's failed mutiny against Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin has said, after he gave a sensational order to his army to halt their march on Moscow and retreat Coup accusations against the PMC Chief have been dropped, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed tonight, and there will be no change of military leadership within Russia despite the humiliating crisis Prigozhin's men will not be charged, Moscow said, while the fighters who did not participate in the uprising will sign contracts with the Ministry of Defence. 'We are turning our columns around and going back to field camps,' an audio message on Prigozhin's Telegram feed said after a meeting between him and Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko Prigozhin announced that while his men were just 200 kilometers (120 miles) from Moscow, he decided to turn them back to avoid 'shedding Russian blood.'

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nivek

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Humiliated Prigozhin is sent into exile in Belarus after aborting his Wagner mercenaries' march to Moscow at 11th hour - but his men are treated like heroes as they withdraw: All eyes are on Putin's next move after Russia came to brink of civil war


The Wagner mercenaries aborted their dramatic 'armed mutiny' against the Kremlin following crisis talks between Prigozhin and Belarus dictator Alexander Lukashenko. Charges of rebellion have been dropped against Prigozhin, with Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov also announcing that no Wagner mercenary will be prosecuted for the insurrection, which saw the group take the city of Rostov and march on the Russian capital in a whirlwind 24-hour advance. The extraordinary episode has weakened Vladimir Putin's position, according to experts, and all eyes will now be on the Russian supremo to see what he does next. There has been no sign of Russian defence minister Sergei Shoigu since the mutiny started, leading to rumours he has been sacked by Putin. If these reports are accurate, then the move would be seen as appeasing Prigozhin, who made Shoigu's removal a key aim of his rebellion and has heavily criticised the politician in recent weeks.

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Dejan Corovic

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Exiled...

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Wagner coup fails: Prigozhin abandons march on Moscow and will be EXILED to Belarus as Kremlin says there'll be no regime change in the Russian military despite armed mutiny from mercenary group


Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin will be exiled to Belarus and face no charges for his mercenary group's failed mutiny against Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin has said, after he gave a sensational order to his army to halt their march on Moscow and retreat Coup accusations against the PMC Chief have been dropped, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov claimed tonight, and there will be no change of military leadership within Russia despite the humiliating crisis Prigozhin's men will not be charged, Moscow said, while the fighters who did not participate in the uprising will sign contracts with the Ministry of Defence. 'We are turning our columns around and going back to field camps,' an audio message on Prigozhin's Telegram feed said after a meeting between him and Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko Prigozhin announced that while his men were just 200 kilometers (120 miles) from Moscow, he decided to turn them back to avoid 'shedding Russian blood.'

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That's what war is like.

Its a great opportunity for worst of men, and they go after it.
 

nivek

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What next for Putin? Kremlin 'faces deeply unstable situation' after Wagner rebellion 'exposed regime's weakness' - as Chechen leader slams 'arrogance' of Prigozhin who 'acted out of anger over failed business deals'

Analysts at the Institute for the Study of War allege the 'short-term fix' of an apparent truce with the Wagner Group will likely 'substantially damage' Putin's government and war efforts, claiming it demonstrated security weaknesses and the 'inability' to repel internal threats quickly. Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin's forces moved from their camps in Ukraine into Russia on Friday and took over a regional military command in the southern city of Rostov-on-Don, before advancing toward Moscow. Just as suddenly, the advance was called off on Saturday, and Russian state media said the Wagner troops would return to Ukraine while Prigozhin would flee to neighboring Belarus. The Kremlin faces a 'deeply unstable' situation after the Wagner rebellion 'exposed the regime's weakness', analysts have warned. Putin's longtime ally Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov slammed Prigozhin's 'arrogance', claiming his actions could lead to 'dangerous consequences'.

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pigfarmer

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‘The People Are Silent’: The Main Reason the Wagner Mutiny Bodes Ill for Putin


‘The People Are Silent’: The Main Reason the Wagner Mutiny Bodes Ill for Putin​

Prigozhin crossed a line. But it was the reaction of ordinary Russians that should worry the Russian president the most.
Members of the Wagner Group military company load their tank onto a truck on a street in Rostov-on-Don, Russia, on June 24, 2023.

After the Wagner chief refused to sign a “contract” subjugating his troops to the ministry of defense, Yevgeny Prigozhin was already guilty of insubordination and the military leaders’ hands were untied. | AP Photo
By LEON ARON
06/25/2023 04:17 PM EDT

Leon Aron is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. His new book, “Riding the Tiger: Vladimir Putin’s Russia and the Uses of War,” will be published in the fall.
With a deal reportedly worked out by Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, the Wagner mutiny appears to be over. The commander and owner of the “private military company,” Yevgeny Prigozhin, promised to turn the troops back to the Ukrainian border, while he himself was reportedly going into exile in Belarus.
What Prigozhin called the March for Justice is likely to be remembered not so much for the actual military operation as for what it revealed about Russia. Like a powerful searchlight, the 48-hour rebellion illuminated the murky innards of the Putin regime including the military’s divided allegiances, the seeming hollowness of the people’s support for the regime and, by extension, the regime’s shaky legitimacy. The images — of Russian President Vladimir Putin, a famous night owl, addressing the nation in a dark suit and tie early on a Saturday morning; of mangled Russian helicopters felled by Wagner forces; and of residents of Rostov-on-Don jeering local police after the mutiny was ended — do not bode well for the Kremlin.
Prigozhin had been pushing the envelope for months. Yet until very recently his obscenity-laden Telegram rants were directed at the Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and the chief of general staff Valery Gerasimov. He hugely upped the ante this past Friday, when he dismissed as fabrications the reasons for invading Ukraine: a preemptive strike against NATO’s alleged aggression and protecting the inhabitants of Russia-occupied Donbas from supposedly relentless Ukrainian shelling. Those were Putin’s pretexts, so while Prigozhin blamed Shoigu for lying to Putin and didn’t name Putin directly, everyone knew that the criticism was ultimately directed at the president.

And so Putin finally decided to end the long-running feud between Prigozhin and Shoigu and Gerasimov. After the Wagner chief refused to sign a “contract” subjugating his troops to the ministry of defense, Prigozhin was already guilty of insubordination and the military leaders’ hands were untied. Whether or not they ordered missile strikes on the Wagner camp, as Prigozhin claimed, he apparently opted for dying like a soldier in a battle against Shoigu’s and Gerasimov’s regular troops to facing a firing squad for treason. (And when a third choice suddenly appeared, the offer of exile in Belarus in return for halting the advance on Moscow, Prigozhin apparently judged that there was enough of a guarantee in the Lukashenko deal keep him alive — even though, a virtual Putin stooge, Lukashenko is hardly in a position to shield the rebel from Putin’s retribution.)
Coups are a tricky thing for an authoritarian. Address the nation too quickly and you are deemed panicked. Wait longer and you come over as indecisive. Putin waited 24 hours. It is now clear why: Once you call it “treason” and threaten the mutineers with “tough” and “imminent” punishment, you’d better follow through. Putin likely hesitated because he doubted that his forces would follow those kinds of orders and he could look impotent as a result.
He was right. Regular troops appear to have melted away before the advancing Wagner forces. There was no resistance even in Rostov-on-Don, the headquarters of the Southern Military District. Apart from a few helicopter gunships, shot down by Wagner, no one attacked the “muzykanty,” or “musicians,” as the Wagnerites like to call themselves. Where were the bomber and jet fighter pilots, who could have pummeled the advancing columns from on high as they marched from the Ukrainian border to Rostov-on-Don?
Even more significant in the long run was the reaction of the people. Coups — and revolutions — are decided not by how many storm the palaces but by how many come to defend them. Indifference helps the plotters. The last line in Pushkin’s tragedy Boris Godunov encapsulates a key condition of a successful rebellion: “Narod bezmolvstvuet.” The people are silent.
In fact, things turned out even more dire than that for Putin. The residents of Rostov were worse than silent. Instead of deploring the Wagner takeover, they appeared in videos welcoming Prigozhin’s “musicians.” Instead of waving portraits of Putin and Russian flags, they brought the insurgents water and candy.
Putin is an avid (and shamelessly mendacious) amateur historian who decries both the end of the Russian Empire and the collapse of the Soviet Union. In his address to the nation, he replaced his favorite trope of the 1941 Nazi invasion with the 1917 Bolshevik Revolution as the calamity from which he was defending the Motherland. That was a telling substitution. Abandoned both by the people of Petrograd and the troops of Petrograd Military District, the Provisional Government was overthrown by the Bolsheviks with only two regiments, two armored cars, and two cars armed with anti-aircraft guns. Was this the memory he was guarding against in his address to the nation?
It proved far from a groundless foreboding. Neither the top military brass, nor the prime minister nor the leaders of the Duma parties, nor the mayor of Moscow backed Putin publicly. The fissures in his support were also evident with the Russian people, who appeared at best indifferent to the outcome of mutiny and at worse, like the residents of Rostov, welcoming it.
In the Soviet classic satire “The Twelve Chairs,” when the charming rogue hero senses that fortune is about to shift his way, he shouts, “The ice is breaking!”
The rebellion was ended by the man who started it, and the ice did not break. But we can all see the cracks.
 

nivek

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Wagner group leader resurfaces for first time since rebellion against Russian leadership

Wagner Group chief Yevgeny Prigozhin resurfaced for the first time since launching a brief rebellion against Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday, posting an 11-minute voice recording to social media.

The march toward Moscow was intended to be a protest against the prosecution of the war in Ukraine and not aimed at regime change in Russia, Prigozhin said, according a Reuters translation.

"We started our march due to injustice. We showed no aggression, but we were hit by missiles and helicopters. This was the trigger," the warlord said in the recording. "We showed a master-class on how Feb. 24, 2022 had to look. We turned around to avoid spilling the blood of Russian soldiers. We regret that we had to hit Russian aviation," he added.

Prigozhin shocked the world this weekend when he turned his private military group against Russian forces, taking control of Russian military bases and beginning the march. The warlord relented on Saturday after Belarus held negotiations between the two sides.

The Kremlin said it made a deal in which the mercenary chief will move to Belarus and he and his soldiers will receive an amnesty. The mutiny was the biggest challenge to Putin in more than 20 years.

Prigozhin's statement offered no clues as to his current whereabouts, and it is not clear whether he has traveled to Belarus.

"The aim of the march was to avoid the destruction of Wagner," he said, according to Reuters.

Prior to the revolt, Prigozhin had been criticizing Russian military leaders including Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu and Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov with expletive-ridden insults for months, slamming them for allegedly failing to provide his troops with enough ammunition during the battle for Bakhmut.

His march was in part to push for their ouster. Shoigu made his first public appearance since the rebellion on Monday, posting video of him inspecting Russian troops in Ukraine.

Prigozhin's feud with the top military brass dates back years to the Russian military intervention in Syria, and the rift escalated in recent months during the fight for Bakhmut.


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