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'Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center
Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa'ad, to "kill as many people as possible," seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.The attack plans, which are labeled "top secret" in Arabic, appear to be orders for two highly trained Hamas units to surround and infiltrate villages and target places where civilians, including children, gather. Israeli authorities are still determining the death toll in Kfar Sa'ad.
The documents were found on the bodies of Hamas terrorists by Israeli first responders and shared with NBC News. They include detailed maps and show that Hamas intended to kill or take hostage civilians and school children.
One page labeled “Top Secret” outlines a plan of attack for Kfar Sa’ad, saying “Combat unit 1” is directed to “contain the new Da’at school,” while “Combat unit 2” is to “collect hostages,” “search the Bnei Akiva youth center” and “search the old Da’at school.”
Another page labeled “Top Secret Maneuver” describes a plan for a Hamas unit to secure the east side of Kfar Sa’ad while a second unit controls the west. It says “kills as many as possible” and “capture hostages.” Other orders include surrounding a dining hall and holding hostages in it.
The detailed plan to attack Kfar Sa'ad is part of a trove of documents that Israeli officials are analyzing, according to one source in the Israeli army and one in the government. Surveillance video of Hamas terrorists entering a kibbutz on Oct. 7 shows tactics similar to those laid out in the documents obtained by NBC News.
The Israeli officials said that the wider group of documents show that Hamas had been systematically gathering intelligence on each kibbutz bordering Gaza and creating specific plans of attack for each village that included the intentional targeting of women and children.
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'Top secret' Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center
Documents exclusively obtained by NBC News show that Hamas created detailed plans to target elementary schools and a youth center in the Israeli kibbutz of Kfar Sa'ad, to "kill as many people as possible," seize hostages and quickly move them into the Gaza Strip.
The attack plans, which are labeled "top secret" in Arabic, appear to be orders for two highly trained Hamas units to surround and infiltrate villages and target places where civilians, including children, gather. Israeli authorities are still determining the death toll in Kfar Sa'ad.
The documents were found on the bodies of Hamas terrorists by Israeli first responders and shared with NBC News. They include detailed maps and show that Hamas intended to kill or take hostage civilians and school children.
One page labeled “Top Secret” outlines a plan of attack for Kfar Sa’ad, saying “Combat unit 1” is directed to “contain the new Da’at school,” while “Combat unit 2” is to “collect hostages,” “search the Bnei Akiva youth center” and “search the old Da’at school.”
Another page labeled “Top Secret Maneuver” describes a plan for a Hamas unit to secure the east side of Kfar Sa’ad while a second unit controls the west. It says “kills as many as possible” and “capture hostages.” Other orders include surrounding a dining hall and holding hostages in it.
The detailed plan to attack Kfar Sa'ad is part of a trove of documents that Israeli officials are analyzing, according to one source in the Israeli army and one in the government. Surveillance video of Hamas terrorists entering a kibbutz on Oct. 7 shows tactics similar to those laid out in the documents obtained by NBC News.
The Israeli officials said that the wider group of documents show that Hamas had been systematically gathering intelligence on each kibbutz bordering Gaza and creating specific plans of attack for each village that included the intentional targeting of women and children.
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And Hamas had a nice colour printer, and plenty of time to even plan a fancy colour scheme for the document.
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I love Jews for their contribution to European culture and science, but I'll be devil's advocate here and say that that chart begs the question as to who's really terrorist here?
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Can't remember the specific book right now and I will see if I can find it. Excellent primer on how Western meddling pre-WW1 essentially created much of this. 'Jewish scientists' were in fact British agricultural experts who were able to make arid portions of the Levant relatively lush and productive. Those concerns ultimately became part of an intelligence network because there were no lack of 'diplomatic meddlers' with zero professional training, any number of US and European oil and strategic military interests. This was an era of Mahanism and the large fleets that were to control world commerce had only recently switched from coal to oil making that area of great interest.
Who knew how all that **** would turn out, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. You don't have all those straight lines defining borders by accident.
The Palestinians certainly have their point. Hamas doesn't, IMO. The reaction was predicted and expected and they seem to have little regard for their own people and would rather put the blame elsewhere no matter what they do. I don't know enough about the historical background but at a glance I'd say that before Western influence not a whole helluva lot was occurring there. Had it not been for the oil they'd all still be at the same relative level of development as they had been for centuries past.
Who knew how all that **** would turn out, I guess we shouldn't be surprised. You don't have all those straight lines defining borders by accident.
The Palestinians certainly have their point. Hamas doesn't, IMO. The reaction was predicted and expected and they seem to have little regard for their own people and would rather put the blame elsewhere no matter what they do. I don't know enough about the historical background but at a glance I'd say that before Western influence not a whole helluva lot was occurring there. Had it not been for the oil they'd all still be at the same relative level of development as they had been for centuries past.
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Hamas is just Iranian proxy.
As @AD1184 smartly sussed it out, Iran wanted to prevent Saudis, Jordanians and Qataris from getting too cosy with Israel. So Hamas killed 1,000 Jews, so Israeli can probably will kill at least 5,000 Palestinians. On the end of the day, its nice to see that politicians are practical people.
Nevertheless, I quite fancy one of these colour printers like Hamas has
. Its quite surprising that nowadays mass murders require such elaborately colourful presentations.
As @AD1184 smartly sussed it out, Iran wanted to prevent Saudis, Jordanians and Qataris from getting too cosy with Israel. So Hamas killed 1,000 Jews, so Israeli can probably will kill at least 5,000 Palestinians. On the end of the day, its nice to see that politicians are practical people.
Nevertheless, I quite fancy one of these colour printers like Hamas has
. Its quite surprising that nowadays mass murders require such elaborately colourful presentations.
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Listening to the insane rhetoric right here on our streets is making me sick. Tell you what, just for an intellectual exercise when we hear the pro-Palestinian views substitute the word 'black' or 'gay' or 'trans' for the word Jew and see how long that shit lasts. Everybody gets a free kick at the Jews and only the Chinese might understand.
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Always follow the money...
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The American Rescue Plan, a COVID-19 relief bill pushed through Congress with unanimous Democrat support in the Senate and almost unanimous in the House, allocated $33.7 million to the United Nations Relief & Works Agency through the State Department’s Migration and Refugee Assistance program, according to data from USASpending.gov, as part of $500 million that was included in the bill for the State Department to fund migration and refugee assistance.
UNRWA has faced intense scrutiny in recent years from critics who say the group has not done enough to prevent aid from reaching the hands of Hamas terrorists. UNRWA locations have reportedly housed Hamas activities and spread Hamas propaganda in schools.
In 2014, the left-leaning New Republic described UNRWA as "effectively a branch of Hamas."
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Biden admin sent tens of millions in COVID relief funds to group accused of harboring Hamas terrorists
The Biden administration sent $33.7 million from the American Rescue Plan, a spending bill meant to combat COVID, to a Palestinian relief organization that has previously been accused of providing safe harbor to terrorists in Gaza and has been referred to as "effectively a branch of Hamas."The American Rescue Plan, a COVID-19 relief bill pushed through Congress with unanimous Democrat support in the Senate and almost unanimous in the House, allocated $33.7 million to the United Nations Relief & Works Agency through the State Department’s Migration and Refugee Assistance program, according to data from USASpending.gov, as part of $500 million that was included in the bill for the State Department to fund migration and refugee assistance.
UNRWA has faced intense scrutiny in recent years from critics who say the group has not done enough to prevent aid from reaching the hands of Hamas terrorists. UNRWA locations have reportedly housed Hamas activities and spread Hamas propaganda in schools.
In 2014, the left-leaning New Republic described UNRWA as "effectively a branch of Hamas."
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The image below in Ben Shapiro's harsh post is one of the images circulating online as proof...Turns out AI made that image...I always thought social media was the worse thing that was created online because of the irresponsible use by so many, generally speaking of course...Now I think AI may be because of the misuse of its abilities and this technology is just getting started...Nothing wrong with any of this technology though, just how its sometimes misused...These days more than ever we have to question everything, now even what we see, AI can be used to trick anyone anytime...
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Then what's claimed to be the actual image below...I say 'claimed' because of the anonymous source...
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Then what's claimed to be the actual image below...I say 'claimed' because of the anonymous source...
Wow.
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CNN blasts ‘fabricated’ viral video claiming Clarissa Ward’s Israel reporting was staged
CNN debunked a viral video circulating on social media claiming correspondent Clarissa Ward’s reporting in Israel was staged.“The audio in the video posted and shared on X is fabricated, inaccurate and irresponsibly distorts the reality of the moment that was covered live on CNN, which people should watch in full for themselves on a trusted platform,” a CNN spokesperson told The Post Friday.
The footage in question depicted Ward and her crew, running for cover and hitting the ground when they heard a barrage of rockets nearby during an attack near the Israel-Gaza border.
The footage depicted the journalist laying on out of fear with her face to the ground in the live show on Monday.
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ux99b7hsSvU
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Dramatic moment Russia shoots down Ukrainian kamikaze drones aimed at Vladimir Putin's Black Sea resort Sochi
This is the dramatic moment two Ukrainian kamikaze drones were shot down, targeted at resort Sochi where Vladimir Putin's official Black Sea resort is based. Russian air defences had to be deployed leading to major explosions offshore in Krasnodar region. The airport was closed and locals reported a series of half a dozen explosions with lights going out in some homes. Putin, 71, often rules Russia from Sochi, and his lover Alina Kabaeva, 40, a gold-medal winning rhythmic gymnast, is frequently based in the city and was here this week. The city authorities said there were no casualties from today's drone onslaught.
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I think you're mixing two different elements here...You posted an image of the Israeli Palestine region containing snapshots from the 1940s to present depicting the expansion of Israeli controlled territory throughout that period of time...This has nothing to do with the Hamas/Israeli conflict nor does it put into question of who the 'real' terrorist is or not...
The image reflects the natural progression in societies throughout quite a bit of our history...Societies with most advantages expands and controls larger areas, societies with less advantages tend to yield to some degree to the other...This type of transition has been occurring for thousands of years and likely will continue to occur for the foreseeable future by the look of things...When I said "inevitable" this is what I mean...The ongoing war between Israel and Hamas and who is right and who is wrong in this conflict is a different matter...
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The trouble with this debate is that neither side establishes the provenance of their images. The post saying that it is an AI-generated image simply presents an image of a dog with an identical background, without bothering to say what the source of the image is. Shapiro also did not mention what the source of his image was.The image below in Ben Shapiro's harsh post is one of the images circulating online as proof...Turns out AI made that image...I always thought social media was the worse thing that was created online because of the irresponsible use by so many, generally speaking of course...Now I think AI may be because of the misuse of its abilities and this technology is just getting started...Nothing wrong with any of this technology though, just how its sometimes misused...These days more than ever we have to question everything, now even what we see, AI can be used to trick anyone anytime...
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Then what's claimed to be the actual image below...I say 'claimed' because of the anonymous source...
Wow.
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Let us suppose that Shapiro's image did in fact show the charred body of an actual infant. In itself, that does not provide the evidence necessary for the claim that it is related to the Hamas attack. This is why sources are important. I notice this on social media a lot, where people on two sides of an argument assert contradictory matter-of-fact claims at one another repeatedly, and nobody bothers to say where their supposed facts come from.
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At first blush locally we could point to American Indians and native Hawaiians. With the latter group there is considerable resentment, palpable with the handful I've met. Easy to say when it isn't your ancestral lands that are being overwhelmed.
A comment about all the online Deep Fake garbage. Why do we even bother with UFO videos anymore when it's blatantly obvious in this very different venue that modern photography can't be fully trusted. You want to photograph ET I'd think you'd be better off toting around a film camera is such a thing still exists.
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Well, a natural progression of that line of thought would be that WW2 war was justified from Nazi point of view, because Germans were the most advanced in their surrounding, so they had right ( and obligation ) to conquer more Lebensraum for themselves. Its pity 5 million people, including not insignificant number of Americans, died trying to prove that point of view wrong.
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Yes perhaps from their point of view and they did just that...Not saying it's right or wrong but whether societies are aware of this or not it happens regularly throughout history...
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