Merle
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Thanks for the reply... sounds peaceful...
I think I'll go for the slimey eel ancestors though... lol...
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I think I'll go for the slimey eel ancestors though... lol...
Visenya
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They remind me of "White Jesus" too. I don't think the Pleiadians/Nordic-alien-master-race exist, actually. Because good aliens = white blue-eyed blonde aliens? Give me a break.
Merle
Honorable
Like I said earlier earlier... maybe other terminolgy would be better used than the word Nordic which describes a group of existing people from Earth?
When you look at pictures of Pleiadians, Nordics, Greys and Reptillians you clearly see human Stereotypes in action... That Reptillian looks more like one of those Super Hero hunky plastic figurines kids like to collect.... What happened to big fat mamma, grumpy wrinkley old grandpa and snotty nosed child?
If you have never seen pictures of these aliens before and then you came across these pictures on an Alien and UFO website (which is exactly where these pictures are from), then surely you can you see why people would raise and eyebrow or two at them?
When you look at pictures of Pleiadians, Nordics, Greys and Reptillians you clearly see human Stereotypes in action... That Reptillian looks more like one of those Super Hero hunky plastic figurines kids like to collect.... What happened to big fat mamma, grumpy wrinkley old grandpa and snotty nosed child?
If you have never seen pictures of these aliens before and then you came across these pictures on an Alien and UFO website (which is exactly where these pictures are from), then surely you can you see why people would raise and eyebrow or two at them?
Merle
Honorable
So if people don't observe or notice people in the same way as you do, as in, they don't experience or see aliens like you do and don't have an inner world of aliens communicating with them like you do, then it means they are not as observant as you are and that they need to pay more attention to their surroundings. ?
Have you considered that maybe other people observe their surroundings and enviroment quite differently to you, in ways which may have little meaning to you or ways you have not observed yourself?
Do you know how many cracks there are on the footpath in front of the shopping center? Have you spent hours watching a spider watching you and every movement you make while it weaves it's web? Can you tell by looking a tree which is dead or almost dead, that that tree 'knew' it was dying and made a last minute desperate bid to reproduce itself out of season?
Do you notice how many people walking past you on any given day are wearing brown hats or how many have blue shirts or how many smile at you..... or just by watching someone, can you perceive their happiness, loneliness or desperation?
Have you considered that maybe other people observe their surroundings and enviroment quite differently to you, in ways which may have little meaning to you or ways you have not observed yourself?
Do you know how many cracks there are on the footpath in front of the shopping center? Have you spent hours watching a spider watching you and every movement you make while it weaves it's web? Can you tell by looking a tree which is dead or almost dead, that that tree 'knew' it was dying and made a last minute desperate bid to reproduce itself out of season?
Do you notice how many people walking past you on any given day are wearing brown hats or how many have blue shirts or how many smile at you..... or just by watching someone, can you perceive their happiness, loneliness or desperation?
nivek
As Above So Below
This is well said, if I could thank you twice, wait I can, thanks lol...Anywho I've found over the years that people do pay attention quite well to things, although it's like you said, in different ways and observing different things than others...A botanist will pay more attention to trees and plants in a forest whilst a hunter will be focused upon potential prey and liable to shoot a tree if his prey runs behind it lol...
Is it even possible to gather and observe every minute movement of a 'thing' (oops, there's that word again) or of every 'thing' (shhh lol) in one's surroundings at any given moment?...
nivek
As Above So Below
There are so many who not only try but do "see beyond the obvious" as you phrased it and everyone perceives things in their own way subjectively...There are some who also perceive things objectively, but we all have those moments throughout our lives, not just a select few...Many apply this in different ways, some spiritual, some financial, some in raising children, some in the way you do, and so forth...
I once met a man who had the knowing of a lot of things, more than he ever let on, but more than that, he had such a deep understanding and wisdom but never showed it...He spoke in a way that turned it back on you to figure out, and he presented himself to others as a very simple and humble loving soul who didn't need nor want any special recognition...
We are all here in this life for different reasons, in my opinion, some to rest, some to play, some to work, some to help, some to teach, some to feed, and so on and so on...No one is special but everyone is unique in this world, including the plants and animals...
Why are all the alleged varieties and species of alien life grouped together into one word, Aliens?...Does fear of one mean all are feared?...Does the love of one mean love for all?...Do you love your neighbor?...Then do you love the terrorist who is out to kill you?...Do you love the neighbor's cat?...Then do you also love the pitbull that mauled and killed a child?...
I think using a blanket term of "many people seem to fear aliens" is misleading and too extremely general...If there are good positive people (aliens) out there, whether they be feathered, or have scales or look like us, there are probably very negative people out there...
This universe is built upon opposing forces for its life...We see it here on earth, and as the wise saying goes "as above so below"...So if people are concerned about contacting alien life they have a real objective and valid concern because life isnt the same everywhere...One may to loving and welcoming, peace and kind, other life may be very cruel and harmful, negative or positive...
We simply do not know what types of life are out there and how things would play out if we meet them...To welcome all and everything into our home is as ignorant and foolish and negating everything out there and attacking anything or anyone from another planet who decides to meet us for the first time...Having a certain amount of caution towards the unknown is healthy, it's certainly not out of fear...
I once met a man who had the knowing of a lot of things, more than he ever let on, but more than that, he had such a deep understanding and wisdom but never showed it...He spoke in a way that turned it back on you to figure out, and he presented himself to others as a very simple and humble loving soul who didn't need nor want any special recognition...
We are all here in this life for different reasons, in my opinion, some to rest, some to play, some to work, some to help, some to teach, some to feed, and so on and so on...No one is special but everyone is unique in this world, including the plants and animals...
Why are all the alleged varieties and species of alien life grouped together into one word, Aliens?...Does fear of one mean all are feared?...Does the love of one mean love for all?...Do you love your neighbor?...Then do you love the terrorist who is out to kill you?...Do you love the neighbor's cat?...Then do you also love the pitbull that mauled and killed a child?...
I think using a blanket term of "many people seem to fear aliens" is misleading and too extremely general...If there are good positive people (aliens) out there, whether they be feathered, or have scales or look like us, there are probably very negative people out there...
This universe is built upon opposing forces for its life...We see it here on earth, and as the wise saying goes "as above so below"...So if people are concerned about contacting alien life they have a real objective and valid concern because life isnt the same everywhere...One may to loving and welcoming, peace and kind, other life may be very cruel and harmful, negative or positive...
We simply do not know what types of life are out there and how things would play out if we meet them...To welcome all and everything into our home is as ignorant and foolish and negating everything out there and attacking anything or anyone from another planet who decides to meet us for the first time...Having a certain amount of caution towards the unknown is healthy, it's certainly not out of fear...
Kchoo
At Peace.
I really appreciate you. I cannot imagine a person better suited to be a moderator and site owner of AE.
Your insite is solid.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
personally I do not find any valid evidence for the creationists version of the young earth idea.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I do as well....far more evidence for this evolutionary pathway. Its the young earth creationists that differently.
Even the Neanderthals are older than 30,000 years......but then as you said many animals also get sunburned, so that argument against it is out.
dr wu
Noble
I think there is plenty of science evidence pointing to a traditional form of natural evolution for mankind.
While we don't understand all of the mechanisms...and why should we since we are still a young species in the scheme of things...there isn't any good reason to jump to esoteric ideas like alien involvement. In time we might learn all we need to know and until then we can simply say we don't have all the answers yet instead of falling down the rabbit hole.
IMHO those that latch onto the eccentric ideas have an inner need to believe in something beyond the norm. There's something missing for them in everyday life that urges them to accept the non mainstream ideas. It's akin to a religion for many people in the fringe areas.
This is an interesting exploration of this as it relates to ufos
The Lure of the Edge
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Well said.....besides many who jump down the rabbit hole are usually the ones who are anti-science paranoiacs.
Darwin's work has been updated over the years.....like Einstein as new discoveries are made. But the basics of his observations are the good theories based on our current knowledge.
In science it is well known that the research seldom ends as new observations never stop. There have been three main theories of the earths geology since I was a kid. Both the expanding earth and earths crust displacement have been discredited as the new evidence of plate tectonics has been shown to be the next idea. Only time will tell where this theory will lead us with the next generations.
nivek
As Above So Below
I don't see any spiritual connection to aliens or ufos...
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I don't either....but there are many who treat the study of ufology like a religious belief to the point of forming a cult.
Case in point billy meier and his followers.
nivek
As Above So Below
That's true, I forgot about the meier cult lol...
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I think there are minor ones too.....I've seen several dealing with conspiracy theories as well.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Dr Jonathon Reed has followers.....I'm sure there are others. Then certain events have their own cults like Roswell and Rendlesham Forrest. Some of the conspiracies that have such followings are things like "chemtrails", fluoride, JFK and of course....9/11.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
I've also noticed that the Hill's also have quite a following.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
One thing I thought of this afternoon is that the science of "evolution" has itself been evolving. When his book "Origin of Species" came out it was still heavily influenced by creationism. Fossil evidence discovered since 1859 have shown that evolution isn't one continuous growing tree.....but one that has been truncated numerous times by mass extinctions. New fossil finds are constantly refining....(evolving).....the theory and the tree of evolution looks quite different than in Darwins day.
His book is a good read if you ever have the time.
Merle
Honorable
I only spent one night reading about all this and it gets a bit confusing because according to some followers, Nordics apparently are descendants of Pleadieans and according to others, Nordics have evolved from Lyrans which are aliens which look a little bit like lions....
I think he lives on Earth (I'm not sure, I haven't come across him nor seen anyone who looks quite like him) and in the picture I found of him he looks like he's about 16 or something and it says this about him:
Ashtar Sheran is not a regular alien presence on Earth – he projects the equivalent energy, and has the equivalent authority, of a cosmic Christ.
I think he lives on Earth (I'm not sure, I haven't come across him nor seen anyone who looks quite like him) and in the picture I found of him he looks like he's about 16 or something and it says this about him:
Ashtar Sheran is not a regular alien presence on Earth – he projects the equivalent energy, and has the equivalent authority, of a cosmic Christ.
Castle-Yankee54
Celestial
Thanks......that does answer my question......makes sense too.