Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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GhostofBiedny

Celestial
I’ve been told a few times that asking for financial help online is a bad thing, even though lots of people do it for different reasons.

People may ask for help online but:
1. Those people don't have a "temporary" crisis that lasts 12 years.
2. Those crises can't simply be solved by those people living within their means.
3. Those people usually do everything they can to help themselves before begging for help and that includes doing a real job that they might otherwise consider "beneath" them.
4. They are not professional squatters who have a history of scamming people out of rent, falsifying leases using their son's name, actively raising funds for a man and a company which robbed elderly people and then slandering those same victims for seeking restitution.
5. People who try to raise money under false pretences end up being prosecuted for fraud.

I take no joy in sending these messages. It’s a matter of the situation and the lack of alternatives.
No you clearly do take joy in sending them because you have been doing it for 12 years and now you are doing it multiple times a day.

The idea that you have any kind of hesitation before sending these things out is so incongruent with your behaviour as to be laughable. Just because you are a moron don't presume everyone else is.

You could do an actual real job, stop overspending and just generally act like a responsible adult but you just don't bother because you think this scam is a viable way of making money.

Nobody is moved by your fake stories of woe. Either get a job and sort out your own problems or live on the street.

The only people I feel sorry for are the people you and your late BIL scammed, the poor suckers who still send you money and your dog - you are clearly the last person on earth who should be responsible for looking after a pet.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
A death sentence by living in a shelter? How ludicrous! Hey Gene, I hate to break it to you but you aren’t earning a living. You are mooching off of other people’s generosity. When I read this nonsense it turns my stomach. A “friend” covered his motel for one night? How do you define “friend?” I don’t believe you have any such thing.

I agree David B. recently referred to how Schemey had alienated any potential friends by his parasitic ways. There are no friends left, that's if there ever were because Steinbeg comes across as an antisocial sociopath who is incapable of making friends anyway.
 

smike

Novice
Eeeeeeee.... bad karma there.

I don't mean that I want him to, or that I think he should. Just that, when people get caught in a lie like this, that's sometimes the step they take.

Also *if* any of it's true (the financial desperation) , that's also a common route, especially for the elderly.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
I don't mean that I want him to, or that I think he should. Just that, when people get caught in a lie like this, that's sometimes the step they take.

Also *if* any of it's true (the financial desperation) , that's also a common route, especially for the elderly.

OK.

 
I don't mean that I want him to, or that I think he should. Just that, when people get caught in a lie like this, that's sometimes the step they take.

Also *if* any of it's true (the financial desperation) , that's also a common route, especially for the elderly.

Oh just go get a job, Gene. Don't bother applying to be a puppeteer though. Also, I can't imagine anyone letting you close to a cash register, but that still leaves lots of jobs. Between a real job, your social security checks, and not going to the casino every day, you could easily have a decent living.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Recently my twins raised $1150 for Alzhimers research. the go fund me lasted a total of 7 days.
they hit Facebook hard.
and t witter. I never shared the link outside of Facebook.
Chris raised money for his projects.
in each case the fundraising ended after a time frame.
this has gone on for 12 years
rent
gas
electricity and..
grocerys
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
for those who are keeping track..
today's message is the 160th email solicitation of 2018..
160.. let that sink in...
 
for those who are keeping track..
today's message is the 160th email solicitation of 2018..
160.. let that sink in...

According to the interwebz, this is day 266 of 2018. There are 99 days left. I think Grifter has already set a new "personal best" but there has to be some kind of record he's getting close to, if not having blown past it already. It's a good reminder that there's a reason most of his crises seem familiar. Some stuff is presumably retired now, like having his bank account hacked, so the possibilities are not getting any more numerous either.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
So that's a begging message every 40 hours, on average. Hmmmmm... I bet he does think it's a job.

You can also bet that once he sends out those messages he sits in the Casino staring at Paypal, Apple Pay and all the other sites on his IPhone waiting for the money to roll in, whilst he places his bets and gambles away the money he has.

No wonder he can't do a real job, between sending out new begging messages, waiting for responses, berating people who ask legitimate questions, gambling away money he can't afford, dining in fine restaurants (without paying) and timing the ad breaks on the Paracast he doesn't have time to do anything else.

It's the Schemey life.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
Has anyone considered this. The reason Steinberg doesn't want money to be sent through PayPal is that someone might have reported to PP about Steinberg's shenanigans and they looked into what was going on and froze out Gene.

It's just a suggestion because I can't believe anything Steinberg puts forth. There is normally a lie behind all his actions.
 

GhostofBiedny

Celestial
Has anyone considered this. The reason Steinberg doesn't want money to be sent through PayPal is that someone might have reported to PP about Steinberg's shenanigans and they looked into what was going on and froze out Gene.

It's just a suggestion because I can't believe anything Steinberg puts forth. There is normally a lie behind all his actions.

Quite possible. If there was a complaint PP would likely freeze his account completely until it was resolved. If he was found to have been in the wrong they might put a permanent freeze on his account.
 

Ron67

Ignorance isn’t bliss!
A death sentence by living in a shelter? How ludicrous! Hey Gene, I hate to break it to you but you aren’t earning a living. You are mooching off of other people’s generosity. When I read this nonsense it turns my stomach. A “friend” covered his motel for one night? How do you define “friend?” I don’t believe you have any such thing.
It's like watching a vintage episode of Flash Gordon,the cliff hanger ending and then a "friend"bailed him out,until the next cliff hanger,cue dramatic music,will Gene find another sucker in time,will the internet trolls finally succeed or will Teddy bear morph into Lassie and save the day?.Find out in the next episode of "Need cash in a Flash Gordon"!.
 

erickson

Honorable
People may ask for help online but:
1. Those people don't have a "temporary" crisis that lasts 12 years.
2. Those crises can't simply be solved by those people living within their means.
3. Those people usually do everything they can to help themselves before begging for help and that includes doing a real job that they might otherwise consider "beneath" them.
4. They are not professional squatters who have a history of scamming people out of rent, falsifying leases using their son's name, actively raising funds for a man and a company which robbed elderly people and then slandering those same victims for seeking restitution.

No, Gene, not many people ask for money in order to cover up fraud and make up stories about settlements to obtain more money

Not many people ask for money after spending over $14,000 on a new car and paying over $670 dollars a month in car payments.

Not many people refuse to apologize to those who gave money under false pretenses - assuming that you somehow believed your stories at the time.

Not many people walk away from a $44,000 personal loan, not to mention tens of thousands in commercial loans

Not many people write bad checks in the hope that donations will keep rolling in

Not many people ask for people to give to them instead of victims of true disasters.

Not many people wait to deal with very foreseeable situations until they become "emergencies" that better appeal to people's hearts as you consistently do.

Not many people live beyond their means by asking for donations rather than simplifying their lifestyle and doing what is necessary to meet ends.

Not many people seek donations to cover basic expenses while ignoring resources - including senior meals, food banks, and low income subsidized housing for seniors.

Not many people have a series of emergencies spanning the years that always seem to be the fault of others.

I could go on, but no, Gene, you are unique in many ways.
 

goblin

Noble
Wow. That most recent email, from Sunday September 23 left me feeling bad for picking apart the ramblings of an old man who seems increasingly mentally unwell. Which is not the same as feeling sorry for Gene. And there is a LOT to pick apart in that unbelievable email. Granted you never can tell what is really true with him but, after reading his latest, I feel like he truly needs to be in some sort of care facility. So much of what he says seems well out of touch with reality.

He's already in temporary housing, aka a motel. Yet a shelter would mean "death"?

He is not earning a living and hasn't for ten years or more. If he did why is he begging?

A "friend" paid for a night at the motel for him? Where have his friends been?

He takes no joy in sending these messages he sends almost daily now, sometimes more than one a day.

I could go on and on. Any of us could.

Gene, get help. Real help, not handouts.
 
I see a lot of people talk about Gene and Barbara hitting the casino but I'm not sure if that's just a joke or real? Can someone fill me in as to whether or not he actually has a gambling issue? I mean it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case.
 

Standingstones

Celestial
In some previous post someone mentioned that Steinberg had a photo of himself seated in a casino on his Facebook page. That was a poor choice on his part. He must have read the post and removed the photo.

If only someone had copied that photo. It must have only been up briefly. It hasn't shown up since. A picture of Steinberg gambling would have been the end for him.
 

goblin

Noble
I see a lot of people talk about Gene and Barbara hitting the casino but I'm not sure if that's just a joke or real? Can someone fill me in as to whether or not he actually has a gambling issue? I mean it wouldn't surprise me if that's the case.

So far as I am aware it's only speculative. A lot of posts by 'Anonymous' in comments at The UFO Trail blog but no evidence, other than, people have seen photos of Gene and family at casinos. I've been in casinos in my lifetime and pictures of my there may exist but, I hate to gamble (I have loads of other vices, don't you worry; gambling just isn't one of them).

A gambling problem would seem to fit in with what we do know, and what we strongly suspect of Gene but I think it's unproven.

Someone out there may know but I haven't seen anyone step up and make the claim. Just Anonymous commenters for the most part. Doesn't mean it's not true but, I wouldn't take it to be gospel.
 
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