well thomas basically trashed that theory one time he was here, soooo...sure, good reason to be suspicious,
that is why I posted the totally other source of theory
and it is a bit odd that it matches ?
and also matches every hardware test of a field force I have ever encountered ?
also matches the information from the shamans...
I know, how dare I mix spiritual and physics with physical tests so that there are no more anomalies
I expect that no one reading or replying to this thread read either document.
at this point I have encountered 2 groups of people.
ones seeking the truth
and ones seeking to be correct.
I say this now because this is the point in the conversation that i ask people to choose a side.
a casual reader might not think this is critical here,
but I have done this so many times before...
I know where this all ends.
No - Alcubierre showed very clearly that right-angle turns can be performed with a gravitational field propulsion system, with zero subjective g-forces, because a craft employing such a system is simply in free-fall along an artificially produced geodesic curvature. Likewise, you could leap from a standstill to thousands of miles per hour in a nanosecond, and an observer aboard the craft would feel no sense of acceleration at all.From my experience I find them to be spiritual
1) Any such manoeuvring at speed especially at right angles cannot be accomplished in the physical. Friction and centrifugal forces will cause any physical object to fail.
Given what we've learned in recent decades about exobiology and exoplanets, the most likely hypothesis is that the universe is teeming with life, and most of the intelligent life has a head start of a couple of billions of years, giving them plenty of time to master interstellar travel.2) If the universe is empty of intelligent life, where do the UFOs come from?
The conditions on Mars aren't very favorable for life. And we don't yet have the technological capability of detecting life on planets orbiting other stars.5) Why has not science found life either on Mars or anywhere else in the universe?
One word: "radar."6) Finally, I have had no evidence to make me believe that they are physical.
Rearranging the furniture is a physical act, which demands a physical mechanism.I know that they can interact physically perhaps by drones and materialisation but not in our physical sense. Oh yer they can rearrange room furniture and use a camera but the physical is not their home environment.
from what i have learned UFOs have both a physical and non-physical existenceNo - Alcubierre showed very clearly that right-angle turns can be performed with a gravitational field propulsion system, with zero subjective g-forces, because a craft employing such a system is simply in free-fall along an artificially produced geodesic curvature. Likewise, you could leap from a standstill to thousands of miles per hour in a nanosecond, and an observer aboard the craft would feel no sense of acceleration at all.
It's counterintuitive, but that's what the physics says.
Given what we've learned in recent decades about exobiology and exoplanets, the most likely hypothesis is that the universe is teeming with life, and most of the intelligent life has a head start of a couple of billions of years, giving them plenty of time to master interstellar travel.
The conditions on Mars aren't very favorable for life. And we don't yet have the technological capability of detecting life on planets orbiting other stars.
One word: "radar."
Rearranging the furniture is a physical act, which demands a physical mechanism.
When somebody succeeds in moving a chair with the "power of the mind," or creating a single electron through an act of will, then I hope somebody will email me the paper about it. Until then, I'm assuming that such fanciful imaginings are exactly that.
I must admit that I do not understand this point?No - Alcubierre showed very clearly that right-angle turns can be performed with a gravitational field propulsion system, with zero subjective g-forces, because a craft employing such a system is simply in free-fall along an artificially produced geodesic curvature. Likewise, you could leap from a standstill to thousands of miles per hour in a nanosecond, and an observer aboard the craft would feel no sense of acceleration at all
Given what we've learned in recent decades about exobiology and exoplanets, the most likely hypothesis is that the universe is teeming with life, and most of the intelligent life has a head start of a couple of billions of years, giving them plenty of time to master interstellar travel.
One word: "radar."
Rearranging the furniture is a physical act, which demands a physical mechanism.
When somebody succeeds in moving a chair with the "power of the mind," or creating a single electron through an act of will, then I hope somebody will email me the paper about it. Until then, I'm assuming that such fanciful imaginings are exactly that.
It explains it perfectly: if the craft is technologically generating a gradient in the spacetime around itself, then the craft is uniformly accelerated in the direction of the polarized spacetime gradient so neither the craft nor any potential occupants inside feel any g-forces - they're in free-fall. If the technology suddenly shifts the direction of that spacetime gradient, say, in a direction at an acute angle to the initial direction, then the craft and any possible occupants simply "fall" in the new direction, instantaneously and without any experience of g-forces. Regardless of the manouvers, from the POV of the craft/occupants, it feels like standing still.I must admit that I do not understand this point?
Firstly a geodesic curve has nothing to do with the point in question that UFOs have been known to suddenly turn at right angles at high speed.
No - these Newtonian considerations don't apply to GR; they only apply to reaction propulsion systems like rockets and cannons. A body accelerated by the metric curvature of spacetime remains "at rest" with respect to its reference frame - it feels no forces, and therefore acquires no momentum or kinetic energy with respect to its reference frame. It's a radically different type of physics than Newtonian physics, just as quantum field theory is a radically different form of physics than classical electromagnetism. You just don't hear about it as much because for us it's still at the theoretical level, but once we devise a gravitational technology people will hear all about this stuff.Talking about Earth properties, what happened to momentum and the energy stored in the body known as potential energy.?
Any material object would break up at sudden velocity direction as momentum pushes in a straight line. Momentum has to be present as to have velocity and acceleration
I know what's called, I just don't believe in it because nobody has ever succeeded in producing such an effect under properly controlled laboratory conditions. But many people have been fooled by magic tricks.It is called telekinesis .
I had seen it done and that is good enough for me. The mind plays an active part and may be manipulating transient energy.
Just saw this reply, After my current post, I am in total agreement with the possibility that they could be from other dimensions of space time.One theory is that they are inter dimensional by which their real world is in a different plane of existence.
This would mean that a s the two planes...our physical and their spiritual OVERLAP we are in effect seeing weightless none physical objects. For example light and heat where we have infra red?
If they can move across to our physical......they have to move back to their own plane in order to travel vast distances and even move at right angles
it explains it perfectly: if the craft is technologically generating a gradient in the spacetime around itself, then the craft is uniformly accelerated in the direction of the polarized spacetime gradient so neither the craft nor any potential occupants inside feel any g-forces - they're in free-fall. If the technology suddenly shifts the direction of that spacetime gradient, say, in a direction at an acute angle to the initial direction, then the craft and any possible occupants simply "fall" in the new direction, instantaneously and without any experience of g-forces. Regardless of the manouvers, from the POV of the craft/occupants, it feels like standing still
You can read about this and study the mathematics in Alcubierre's 1994 paper on the subject
No - these Newtonian considerations don't apply to GR; they only apply to reaction propulsion systems like rockets and cannons. A body accelerated by the metric curvature of spacetime remains "at rest" with respect to its reference frame - it feels no forces, and therefore acquires no momentum or kinetic energy with respect to its reference frame. It's a radically different type of physics than Newtonian physics, just as quantum field theory is a radically different form of physics than classical electromagnetism. You just don't hear about it as much because for us it's still at the theoretical level, but once we devise a gravitational technology people will hear all about this stuff.
I know what's called, I just don't believe in it because nobody has ever succeeded in producing such an effect under properly controlled laboratory conditions. But many people have been fooled by magic tricks.
Until there's a test of psychokinesis that can be demonstrated in the lab, without trickery, then it remains a myth. Even the top remote viewers and researchers for the government's Stargate program never observed telekinesis (probably because it doesn't exist).
Nuts and bolts, Here is why, people think of the technology aspect so much they tend to forget there are usually occupants in those crafts. Why would a physical alien, Need a spiritual UFO? Or vice versa. I don't think spiritual entities would need a craft to travel at all, as things like physical distance would be moot for what is basically tantamount to an energy being.
Nah, The closest I will approach to saying UFOS are not nuts and bolts, would be to proclaim that those crafts are from a higher dimension and thusly we aren't perceiving the entire craft, that maybe our minds are interpreting the tech and trying to rationalize what we know by comparing them to things we legitimately do understand, Like "nut's and bolts"
Ahh....just seen your post...so we agree. lolJust saw this reply, After my current post, I am in total agreement with the possibility that they could be from other dimensions of space time.
From my experience I find them to be spiritual
1) Any such manoeuvring at speed especially at right angles cannot be accomplished in the physical. Friction and centrifugal forces will cause any physical object to fail.
2) If the universe is empty of intelligent life, where do the UFOs come from? From the spiritual dimension allowing none physical forces on their craft.
3) What about all the Greys and aliens that are reported? Drones or biological robots designed to do physical tasks
4) Why not physical nuts and bolts? Anything with advanced intelligence and make up....as give them credit to get here, must have overcome physical hardship of a material body. Especially with the degree of sophistication and psychic ability of aliens . They have literally overcome physical rebirth.
5) Why has not science found life either on Mars or anywhere else in the universe? Because they are looking for life like ours and refuse to understand that the greater life is beyond ours.
6) Finally, I have had no evidence to make me believe that they are physical. I know that they can interact physically perhaps by drones and materialisation but not in our physical sense. Oh yer they can rearrange room furniture and use a camera but the physical is not their home environment.
Such is my belief from experience.
George
Take into account, Time dilation, Acceleration dilates time. An example would be, If I left earth right now, traveling at near light speed in a round trip. When ten years pass for me, about forty years would have passed for everyone left behind upon my return. Ultimately, To calculate the natural lifespan of an entity would be difficult because one would need to factor in how fast they have been moving for how long. Because without a doubt this would affect their travels in one way or another. That's not to mention we wouldn't know what their natural life spans where.That is a silly question, IMHO.
Most, probably 90+% are physical crafts.
They do not have to be coming here from light-years away but may merely be coming from another universe. Getting here from there is a process of "phase-transitioning".
As far as high speed maneuvering go, if the craft has it's own gravitation system then things and people inside would be immune to centrifugal forces of such and would feel no sense of motion at all.
One thing most people and researchers fail to consider is the time flow differences from our universe as compared to others. Depending on how far away the other universe is( not in actual distance but as far as phase position goes) the greater the temporal flow differences. So a ship from universe A for example, travels to universe B. where the time flow differences are 1 minute universe A equates to 6 months of universe B. Well for the people of that craft they could stay in universe B for 6 months before 1 minutes passes back home in universe A.
If the craft came from Universe B, then for every minute that passed 6 months would go by back home in universe B.
This can be reversed and be lesser or even more dramatic.
This should be considered when people are concerned about UFO shape changes. For them, our 60 years may equate to centuries or more for them.
While time is exaggerated in this way so is space distances in an equal way.
But if you used a artificially generated worm-hole to go 1 billion light-years away 1 minute would still be 1 minute. There and back.Take into account, Time dilation, Acceleration dilates time. An example would be, If I left earth right now, traveling at near light speed in a round trip. When ten years pass for me, about forty years would have passed for everyone left behind upon my return. Ultimately, To calculate the natural lifespan of an entity would be difficult because one would need to factor in how fast they have been moving for how long. Because without a doubt this would affect their travels in one way or another. That's not to mention we wouldn't know what their natural life spans where.
Well, I don't really know how to calculate for a wormhole, Because, in cases like that, Space is folded, So, the travel distance and acceleration would be different. I'm not writing that possibility out, In fact, I support that it could be a thing, I just can't calculate for it is all.But if you used a artificially generated worm-hole to go 1 billion light-years away 1 minute would still be 1 minute. There and back.
Our universe has it's very own phase that varies very little from one end of the universe to the other. Time dilation is different than what I am referring to. It is sort of similar as time will shrink or expand depending on what direction of travel one takes into the multiverse. Time has a polarity to it. Positive time is where time expands. negative time is where it begins to shrink. And neutral is where time remains the same. There is an endless string of universes that fall into that category as well.
IMHO...