How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

michael59

Celestial
Everyone in my family (except the children) have been vaccinated now, seems the older folk in the family went for the Moderna or Pfizer and the younger ones chose the Johnson & Johnson as I did although I'm not young anymore lol...

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Looks like I might have to fight to get one since I am over 60.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Today is Moderna shot #2 for my wife and I. She got slightly sick the first time, I didn't. She might this time too, I am not expecting a reaction but you never know.

Getting it at the supermarket. Same place we were all darting through last year trying to get what we need and avoid one another lie, well, the Plague. Now all the precious sanitizer, masks, gloves etc are in a pile to one side all on discount.
 

AD1184

Celestial
The United Kingdom has a larger population share fully vaccinated now than the United States, and the proportion is growing faster also. However, we are having problems with the 'Delta' (Indian) variant causing a case surge
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Share of the population fully vaccinated against COVID-19

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COVID-19 Data Explorer

This has led the British government to delay the lifting of the last of the restrictions on the 19th of June. It is quite possible that they will decide to backtrack and re-implement some of the restrictions that were lifted last month. If they had delayed the lifting of the last lot of restrictions last month, we might not be in this predicament, or indeed if they had barred travel into the country from India two months ago at the same time that travel was barred from the comparativlely safer neighbouring countries of Bangladesh and Pakistan. However, this government has a habit of putting off tough decisions, which maximizes dissatisfaction on all sides.

The Delta variant is in the US also, and likely accounting for a growing share of new cases.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Shot #2 is hitting my wife very hard. She'll be OK but enough of this already.

Hope she recovers well, are you feeling any side effects?...If you don't mind me asking, what's the major issue hitting her the worst from the shot?...

I agree, enough is enough, I won't do anymore shots either, nope no booster shots, no more...In my opinion those vaccinated have done their part for the sake of this pandemic and humanity, and that's enough...

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pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Hope she recovers well, are you feeling any side effects?...If you don't mind me asking, what's the major issue hitting her the worst from the shot?...

I agree, enough is enough, I won't do anymore shots either, nope no booster shots, no more...In my opinion those vaccinated have done their part for the sake of this pandemic and humanity, and that's enough...

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Honestly I think part of it is psychosomatic. She went it with dread and got what she’s afraid of. She was up barfing herself silly half the night. Doesn’t seem to have a fever. It just bounced off me.

We now have our vaccination cards and they’ll be filed away hopefully never to be seen again. No more shots for this kid. Only did it because of nursing home access. Not sure if it will be a requirement for them but we had to cover our bases.
 

JahaRa

Noble

First, neck pain, swollen lymph nodes. It is a known side effect of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. Second, what was the comment on the screen behind him about ivermectin in Mexico? Ivermectin is used for parasites, and it makes me think about how ignorant people are about virus's. There is no medicine that kills a virus. Your body has to do that by creating antibodies, immune boosting supplements would help better than any of these other things. My brother in law is sure that the anti-fungal medicine he was given when he was in the hospital with Covid 19 (given him because the doctors were at a loss of his illness and decided it must be valley fever) cured him. What actually, in my opinion, cured him, not really cured, but gave his body the chance to fight the virus, is that he was forced to stay in a hospital bed with extra oxygen and rest for a week. He got so sick because he would not stay down, had work, had this, had that that he needed to do.

The same for the malaria drug that is also used for Lupus, it is not going to kill a virus. The pharmacuetical companies are happy to sell their drugs for what ever they can convince people the drugs will help. The doctors are mind numbed zombies that follow the advice (bad or not, against common sense) because the pharmacuetical companies run the medical schools and indoctrinate the doctors using known mind control methods (namely lack of sleep) to make the indoctrination stick. Sometimes after a doctor has been in practice for a few years and has gotten some sleep he or she will realize what is going on and walk away from what ever institution they are working for. Some quit being doctors, some study alternative medical practices and open a small office because they want to help people, but the majority of doctors in the U.S. are not in it to help anyone but themselves. They used to be able to be rich, now they are just well off because of the insurance companies. Another diatribe for another day.
 

AD1184

Celestial
First, neck pain, swollen lymph nodes. It is a known side effect of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. Second, what was the comment on the screen behind him about ivermectin in Mexico? Ivermectin is used for parasites, and it makes me think about how ignorant people are about virus's. There is no medicine that kills a virus.
There are many antiviral drugs. Antivirals typically prevent viral replication, rather than 'killing' individual virus particles (which don't actually meet the definition of life anyway). Ivermectin, as well as being an antiparasitic, was shown to have an antiviral effect in vitro, and against SARS-CoV-2 specifically, which has generated interest about its use as a potential Covid treatment or prophylactic, like hydroxychloroquine was after it too demonstrated similar in vitro effects.

Ivermectin is now a generic drug, and costs pennies for a course of treatment. Merck, who developed Ivermectin, has not promoted its use for Covid-19, and has in fact done the opposite, issuing guidance that it does not recommend the medicine for this purpose.

Ivermectin has apparently patchy results in randomized control trials in people for the treatment of Covid-19. But the hugely expensive patent drug Remdesivir has had a lot of favourable press and has been awarded emergency approvals for the treatment of Covid-19 despite having dubious clinical evidence to support its use for this purpose.
 

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I just got my 2nd Phizer shot yesterday. I felt tired and rundown after the first one. I felt no ill effects at all after the second one.

That being said, I've done my part and I'm tired of hearing about covid in the news. Now it really feels like the talk of viruses is just being used for political purposes.
 

JahaRa

Noble
There are many antiviral drugs. Antivirals typically prevent viral replication, rather than 'killing' individual virus particles (which don't actually meet the definition of life anyway). Ivermectin, as well as being an antiparasitic, was shown to have an antiviral effect in vitro, and against SARS-CoV-2 specifically, which has generated interest about its use as a potential Covid treatment or prophylactic, like hydroxychloroquine was after it too demonstrated similar in vitro effects.

Ivermectin is now a generic drug, and costs pennies for a course of treatment. Merck, who developed Ivermectin, has not promoted its use for Covid-19, and has in fact done the opposite, issuing guidance that it does not recommend the medicine for this purpose.

Ivermectin has apparently patchy results in randomized control trials in people for the treatment of Covid-19. But the hugely expensive patent drug Remdesivir has had a lot of favourable press and has been awarded emergency approvals for the treatment of Covid-19 despite having dubious clinical evidence to support its use for this purpose.
So, ivermectinn is not a viable drug to be used for Covid 19. The problem is that people read about this and you can get ivermectin over the counter at any feed store. It is used for heart worm prevention in dogs and horses. You can get a chart that tells you how much to use by weight of the animal. It was orinignally designed for humans in Africa as a preventative from parasites. It was not designed nor tested as an anti-viral agent.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
It was not designed nor tested as an anti-viral agent.

That doesn't necessarily mean it won't work as an anti-viral agent, more testing should be done if there's an indication it may work...Human guineas are also needed for such testing lol...

There's many things over the years that were designed for one purpose and later its discovered there are other applications that wasn't originally intended...

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JahaRa

Noble
That doesn't necessarily mean it won't work as an anti-viral agent, more testing should be done if there's an indication it may work...Human guineas are also needed for such testing lol...

There's many things over the years that were designed for one purpose and later its discovered there are other applications that wasn't originally intended...

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Yeah, like viagra. It didn't work for it's original intention but it had a side effect that was very marketable and had nothing to do with addressing any health issue. What it is used for, usually has underlying conditions but rather than care about a person's health it is more important that a man can do what he wants even when he isn't healthy enough to. And on the other side of the coin is birth control for women with tons of dangerous side effects but the few minor side effects that were found in the birth control for men, it was deemed not safe to approve by the FDA. Really, the pharmaceutical companies care nothing for people's health, only their profit.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Really, the pharmaceutical companies care nothing for people's health, only their profit.

Last week I was in line at a Pharmacy picking up meds for my mom and the guy in front of me about had a stroke when the pharmacist told him the drugs he was prescribe cost 600 dollars...Unbelievable that a small bottle of pills should cost that much to the average person, that shouldn't be in a first world country...Its all about profit...

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JahaRa

Noble
Last week I was in line at a Pharmacy picking up meds for my mom and the guy in front of me about had a stroke when the pharmacist told him the drugs he was prescribe cost 600 dollars...Unbelievable that a small bottle of pills should cost that much to the average person, that shouldn't be in a first world country...Its all about profit...

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I hope someone told him about that program where you download an app and it gets you a big discount. My daughter has used that AND CVS & Walgreens are the biggest gougers in the country. It was so bad in Texas that our insurance company said they would not pay any thing towards prescriptions from CVS. Most of the time each insurance company or plan has a contract with the big box pharmacies and that drives the prices. For example if Walgreens has a contract with an insurance company for a specific drug it includes a clause that they are not allowed to sell that drug for less than that contract price to anyone whether they are on that insurance or not. (A walgreens pharmacist told me that). I forgot the example that the pharmacist gave but it was a drug that Walgreens could sell for a profit at 7.00, but the insurance contract someone in the high ups at Walgreens signed made them charge 15.00 for it.

There are places like Walmart that keep the prices as low as possible, probably the only good thing about Walmart in my opinion, but even they have to make deals with the insurance companies.
 

michael59

Celestial
Yesterday, around 3pm, I planned to go to Costco and get some bulk groceries. Basically, the entire time that I tried to get ready and then drive myself there, everything that could go wrong, did. Including my driving. The traffic was really busy.

I became angry and thought, this is crazy. I was already in a lot of pain and I was exhausted. I was sitting at a red light when I had this epiphany. I noticed a KFC and decided to pick up something for dinner and start again tomorrow morning at 7am when there is a lot less traffic and most places are open for "seniors only" to shop.

So, now I am sitting at the red light outside of KFC waiting to turn left and go back home and I notice this pharmacy kitty corner to where I am. I thought, if the traffic permits, I will swing in there and grab some of those generic muscle and back pain pills. That way I can take one before I leave tomorrow and I should be alright til I get home again.

This man was all over me as soon as I walked through the door. I think he was the pharmacist. They didn't have what I was looking for. They only had the brand name which was $40 a bottle. It's only $8 for the generic, I refuse to pay that much for a name brand and I told him that. As I turned to leave, he asked me if I had prescription coverage and I told him I did. He offered to give me the prescription equivalent to the medicine I was seeking.

There was a walk in clinic attached to this pharmacy, so to make sure I understood what he was offering I said, I don't have a prescription and I am not willing to sit and wait to see a doctor to get one. He said I didn't need to do that because he will write a prescription for me right now and fill it. I said okay and while I was fishing out my cards, I gave him a laundry list of what I needed but had been too lazy to go see a doctor about and he gave it all to me. Then he handed me his card and said if I need anything I could just call him and he will have it delivered to me free of charge. My cannabis store offers the same service.

You could have knocked me over with a feather.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I don't know about Canada but its illegal for a pharmacist to write out prescriptions and fill them in the US...If it were legal then anyone could go to a pharmacy and get pain meds or any other narcotics with ease bypassing the checks and balances that a doctor provides...

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michael59

Celestial
I don't know about Canada but its illegal for a pharmacist to write out prescriptions and fill them in the US...If it were legal then anyone could go to a pharmacy and get pain meds or any other narcotics with ease bypassing the checks and balances that a doctor provides...

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AFAIK it has always been that way here to.
 

michael59

Celestial
I don't know about Canada but its illegal for a pharmacist to write out prescriptions and fill them in the US...If it were legal then anyone could go to a pharmacy and get pain meds or any other narcotics with ease bypassing the checks and balances that a doctor provides...

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I just now read the card he handed me. His title (on the card) is written as: Prescribing Pharmacist, Owner & Manager. Not only is that new to me, but he is also open on Sunday's and holidays. I have never known a pharmacy to be open on a statutory holiday in Canada. xxxx2
 

wwkirk

Divine
I just now read the card he handed me. His title (on the card) is written as: Prescribing Pharmacist, Owner & Manager. Not only is that new to me, but he is also open on Sunday's and holidays. I have never known a pharmacy to be open on a statutory holiday in Canada. xxxx2
Here's an article about this.

Independent pharmacist prescribing in Canada
Excerpt:
Pharmacists could independently prescribe in 7 of 10 provinces, including continuing existing prescriptions (7 provinces), adapting existing prescriptions (4 provinces) and initiating new prescriptions (3 provinces). However, there was significant heterogeneity between provinces in the rules governing each function.
 
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