Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums
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GiantsBain
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Yikes.Frightening visage! Well, the door jamb and so forth look grubby like what you'd expect for a fleabag motel, so I assume it's a genuine shot. Note the heavy metal caps on the door hinges--like they are trying to prevent someone from stealing the door itself.
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
Never once has he told us why he can't pay his own bills. There is no explanation for where his social security money goes.
One morning he will say he is making progress, then a few hours later he will say his bank account is empty and he needs urgent help.
It is all beyond absurd and the fact that it has persisted for a decade (in this current form) means that anyone who takes it at face value has some serious cognitive deficit.
Hey Gene, how about for a change you actually tell us what is the cause of this perpetual crisis which occurs nearly every day?
Is it something paranormal - because right now that is the only way it could be real?
Are the aliens stealing your money? Is a zombie Jim Moseley draining your accounts?
- That explanation would make more sense than your inconsistent, contradictory, lie-laden, daily e-begs.
Please explain how your are incapable of paying your bills every other day (if not every day) for the last ten years and despite all of this you still manage to not get kicked out of your motel for the last several months.
One morning he will say he is making progress, then a few hours later he will say his bank account is empty and he needs urgent help.
It is all beyond absurd and the fact that it has persisted for a decade (in this current form) means that anyone who takes it at face value has some serious cognitive deficit.
Hey Gene, how about for a change you actually tell us what is the cause of this perpetual crisis which occurs nearly every day?
Is it something paranormal - because right now that is the only way it could be real?
Are the aliens stealing your money? Is a zombie Jim Moseley draining your accounts?
- That explanation would make more sense than your inconsistent, contradictory, lie-laden, daily e-begs.
Please explain how your are incapable of paying your bills every other day (if not every day) for the last ten years and despite all of this you still manage to not get kicked out of your motel for the last several months.
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GhostofBiedny
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Since I expect these responses to USI Calgary's last screenshotted post here will not survive long...
Must be a casino day for Gene today because the post is still up. It must be some kind of record.
erickson
Honorable
When I was Paracast Plus member and somewhat active in the forums I suggested guests from time to time - although my list undoubtedly differs from yours, they were people who I thought would be interesting with Chris. I also had some ideas on how to make membership more viable.
But for me it comes down to Gene's credibility. The begging is important to me because it is based on a history of fraud and misrepresentation. Whether Gene is willing to take steps that could change his life is important to me - both as a measure of his credibility and because I have some sympathy. All the constructive criticism about the show that I could offer is not going to fix those problems.
Unlike David Biedny, I don't think he needs to be an experiencer or even a researcher - and it might be best not to be. But what does Gene provide to make me want to listen or spend time with him?
Standingstones
Celestial
I do wonder if Steinberg is finally getting worn down from all this dissent. It used to be he could merely delete any comments or ban any members. Unfortunately for him, other websites are discussing his life freely without anyone shutting them up. It has to twist him up inside, knowing that the public has found out about his financial nonsense.
His websites have very few members and the cash is no longer rolling in as it once did. He is still with a roof over his head, so there must be resources he can count on. Perhaps all the good time money is drying up. Let us hope that is the case.
His websites have very few members and the cash is no longer rolling in as it once did. He is still with a roof over his head, so there must be resources he can count on. Perhaps all the good time money is drying up. Let us hope that is the case.
Standingstones
Celestial
Your last sentence struck a chord with me. Do I want to listen to or spend time with Gene Steinberg? My answer would be a resounding “No!” Life is too short now to waste on a cheat and a fraud.
goblin
Noble
Insult to self-inflicted injury.
Does he really make so many purchases that he cannot keep track of this? Did this even happen or is he just claiming it as a reason to ask again for money?
Good grief.
goblin
Noble
I have thought about it before that it really feels as though you couldn't trust Gene at all, and he'd only be interested in dealing with you to the extent he might get something out of you in return.
I think years back there was a "who would you trust to babysit your kids" question that came up with regard to a couple Presidential candidates. I am not sure I can think of circumstances under which I could trust Gene. And this is based on the evidence of his own actions.
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GhostofBiedny
Celestial
Wow. What was I saying about where his money goes. Just a couple of hours later and he is in the negative now. How the hell does that keep happening. Are we to presume that Aliens are abducting the contents of his accounts?
GhostofBiedny
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Also his statement there doesn't make sense to me. Is he saying he is buying gas with Paypal? How does a $1 charge make Paypal negative by $40? Further why is he buying gas that he can't pay for? It is not accidental it is deliberate.
Even if he makes some bullshit excuse that he is buying gas so he can ride share (despite all the evidence to the contrary) it must become clear at some point that whatever ride sharing he is doing is not resulting in a net benefit that allows him to survive - certainly not enough to make up for that $700/month he is paying for that car.
Here's a clue Gene - if your fake ridesharing job doesn't pay the bills and ends up costing you extra money on top of everything else the answer is to get rid of the car and find a different job, the answer is not begging forever in the hope that the maths will magically change so that some point in the future two plus two will equal fifteen. That is magical thinking.
I just find these absurd crises more and more frustrating. A primary school kid could figure out these things.
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
goblin
Noble
It's confusing to me as well but as I read it, he's saying he pays for gas with a debit card linked to his PayPal account. Initially just a $1 charge / debit appears on that account for his gas purchase, but maybe he really bought $20 or $40 of gas. Instead of mentally budgeting for that he blunders on and spends the rest of the money in the PayPal account, so when the actual charge posts to his account, it brings it into the red.
I don't have a PayPal debit card so I don't know exactly how that works. I don't know that we can take Gene's claims as gospel. It seems strange to me that PayPal would allow him to go red like that but, you may have to have some backup funding account linked to your PayPal...? I mean if someone can find a way to overspend I'm sure it's Gene.
I use a debit card for gas purchases myself, but it's a card associated with a bank account and also has a MasterCard logo and can seemingly be charged as a credit card at times too. I treat it as a debit card and have never had the kind of problems Gene is talking about.
Yeah good thought, is he spending so much in gas because of this alleged Lyft / Uber driving, and if so is it really working out to his favor? He's supposedly both always broke, yet always able to miraculously pay for the motel at the last minute. God knows.
goblin
Noble
Great points, thanks for sharing.
GhostofBiedny
Celestial
Yes but in that case it doesn't make any sense to mention the $1 charge. The problem would be the $40 he spent on gas that he doesn't have. It is akin to complaining about a paper cut on your finger when you have a massive haemorrhaging hole in your femoral artery. I get the impression he is deliberately trying to confuse the issue as some bizarre form of misdirection. He wants us to believe that the problem is not his overspending but the comparatively small fee he gets charged on top of it. Absolutely bonkers.
goblin
Noble
I took it that he doesn't notice the pending authorization for the gas purchase is only $1, not $20 or $40, which is what he really spent. Then when the authorization posts as a transaction, the full amount is debited from his account and puts him in the red.
He's saying this happened to him twice the past week or two I think. I could see it getting past a person once but multiple times in succession seems odd.
erickson
Honorable
I attribute his current dilemma to magical thinking. If Gene is to be believed . . . Then he found a way to overdraw PayPal. It seems similar to when he wrote a bad check to one of his landlords and hoped it would be covered in time to avoid eviction.
I am trying to decide if Gene is the most optimistic person in the world - whether it be that money will come through for PayPal or the Paracast will solve everything - or the most cynical. The latter seems the most likely.
I am trying to decide if Gene is the most optimistic person in the world - whether it be that money will come through for PayPal or the Paracast will solve everything - or the most cynical. The latter seems the most likely.
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