How is The Coronavirus affecting your life?

I'm getting my second dose in 4 weeks, just when my country Finland is in the middle of the 4th wave, started by some stupid football fans bringing the delta variant from Russia into here. It's about 700 new cases now per day here and increasing, thank you very much football people and insufficient border guards.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
So let's start wearing masks for the cold and flu too, might as well since the vaccinated are wearing them for mild covid (cold) symptoms...While we're at it, might as well make it mandatory for any kind of respitory illness, slight cough, masks all around, a sneeze, lockdown initiated...

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JahaRa

Noble
So let's start wearing masks for the cold and flu too, might as well since the vaccinated are wearing them for mild covid (cold) symptoms...While we're at it, might as well make it mandatory for any kind of respitory illness, slight cough, masks all around, a sneeze, lockdown initiated...

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I can't tell if you were being sarcastic or not but I have always been bugged by people who have the flu or a cold (which we all know are contagious) going about as if they are fine. I know part of it is programming - commercials for remedies to alleviate symtoms so you can continue your day as normal, and because corporate mentality is you work when I say you work. Single parents have to use their PTO and Vacation to stay home with sick kids so once the kids are fine, and they often will get what ever the kid has the next week, they have to go to work and so they expose everyone who comes in contact with them at work, shopping, etc. I did it when I was young too, I had to earn a living. I tried to limit my contact with others, and I never had a job that required I interact with the public, but I could have gotten over what ever virus a lot easier and quicker if I had just stayed home.

So, yes, maybe we should all make a habit of wearing masks in public when we have a cold or the flu, and if it is the flu we should all stay home for a week.
 

michael59

Celestial
I can't tell if you were being sarcastic or not but I have always been bugged by people who have the flu or a cold (which we all know are contagious) going about as if they are fine. I know part of it is programming - commercials for remedies to alleviate symtoms so you can continue your day as normal, and because corporate mentality is you work when I say you work. Single parents have to use their PTO and Vacation to stay home with sick kids so once the kids are fine, and they often will get what ever the kid has the next week, they have to go to work and so they expose everyone who comes in contact with them at work, shopping, etc. I did it when I was young too, I had to earn a living. I tried to limit my contact with others, and I never had a job that required I interact with the public, but I could have gotten over what ever virus a lot easier and quicker if I had just stayed home.

So, yes, maybe we should all make a habit of wearing masks in public when we have a cold or the flu, and if it is the flu we should all stay home for a week.

It has always been advisable to stay home when you are ill so you don't spread it around. At least it was at my work place. You shouldn't be having to protect yourself against it 24/7/365. That's just paranoia....


Paranoia has reached absurd stages...
I sneezed in front of my laptop and the anti-virus started a scan on its own

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JahaRa

Noble
It has always been advisable to stay home when you are ill so you don't spread it around. At least it was at my work place. You shouldn't be having to protect yourself against it 24/7/365. That's just paranoia....




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I have had jobs where the boss would get upset if we called in sick and one even asked me for a doctors note by saying "What did the doctor say?" once when I had the flu. It was the 4th day I had called in and I yelled him "It is a Virus! What can a doctor do to help that? I can't come in today." I was still feeling really bad. I was at that job for 12 years and the management attitude was "you come in even if you are dying", the young people did and that is probably how I got that awful flu. Not all employers are smart enough to insist you stay home when you are ill, in fact in the U.S. that attitude is rare in my experience.
 

michael59

Celestial
So let's start wearing masks for the cold and flu too, might as well since the vaccinated are wearing them for mild covid (cold) symptoms...While we're at it, might as well make it mandatory for any kind of respitory illness, slight cough, masks all around, a sneeze, lockdown initiated...

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I have had jobs where the boss would get upset if we called in sick and one even asked me for a doctors note by saying "What did the doctor say?" once when I had the flu. It was the 4th day I had called in and I yelled him "It is a Virus! What can a doctor do to help that? I can't come in today." I was still feeling really bad. I was at that job for 12 years and the management attitude was "you come in even if you are dying", the young people did and that is probably how I got that awful flu. Not all employers are smart enough to insist you stay home when you are ill, in fact in the U.S. that attitude is rare in my experience.

I doubt it will be that way anymore. Not after this.
 

JahaRa

Noble
I doubt it will be that way anymore. Not after this.
I hope not, it is wasteful and cost companies a lot more money when one person comes in sick and infects 10 more you have low productivity for 2 or 3 weeks or worse people can't work for a month or get hospitalized and/or die.
 

michael59

Celestial
I hope not, it is wasteful and cost companies a lot more money when one person comes in sick and infects 10 more you have low productivity for 2 or 3 weeks or worse people can't work for a month or get hospitalized and/or die.

It wouldn't surprise me if they made it illegal to go in sick or ask employees to come in sick. A lot of people lost their livelihoods because of this pandemic as well as their life savings.

Some lost a lot more than that, but we are discussing the workplace at the moment.
 

AD1184

Celestial
In Sweden, it was apparently a social faux pas to turn up to work while ill before the pandemic. They already had a culture of self-isolation, which might go some way to explain why they did not suffer too badly despite not shutting down their society like many other countries. I don't know if this dates to the Viking era, when the sick were said to be cast from their villages to remote dwellings until they recovered, lest they spread their illness to the other inhabitants.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
So, yes, maybe we should all make a habit of wearing masks in public when we have a cold or the flu, and if it is the flu we should all stay home for a week.

It will be a cold day in hell before I start wearing masks in public spaces because someone else might have a cold amongst the teeming masses...

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nivek

As Above So Below

Yes I shutter at the notion but they are starting to beat those drums and I think the UK has begun the booster shot campaign and inoculation...Is that correct @AD1184 ?...

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AD1184

Celestial
Yes I shutter at the notion but they are starting to beat those drums and I think the UK has begun the booster shot campaign and inoculation...Is that correct @AD1184 ?...

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They have not started inoculating anyone with booster shots yet, so far as I know, although such a programme is being planned. It doesn't bother me.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
They have not started inoculating anyone with booster shots yet, so far as I know, although such a programme is being planned. It doesn't bother me.

It bothers me because its just the mRNA vaccine makers which have made mention of the booster shots, I've heard nothing from Johnson & Johnson about this...I am not getting a mRNA vaccine nor booster of that design, I may consider a J&J booster if one should become available...

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JahaRa

Noble
Yes I shutter at the notion but they are starting to beat those drums and I think the UK has begun the booster shot campaign and inoculation...Is that correct @AD1184 ?...

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I think the booster might be an attempt to cover some mutations that are showing up and causing vaccinated people to get the virus. However, I have never had a flu shot and I am not sure I will get any more covid shots. I am going to see how things are next year and decide. It is going to be like the flu shot, a new one will come out every time a mutation happens, and since this one mutates so fast and is not seasonal we might be seeing them every 6 months instead of every year.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
In Sweden, it was apparently a social faux pas to turn up to work while ill before the pandemic. They already had a culture of self-isolation, which might go some way to explain why they did not suffer too badly despite not shutting down their society like many other countries. I don't know if this dates to the Viking era, when the sick were said to be cast from their villages to remote dwellings until they recovered, lest they spread their illness to the other inhabitants.

The Swedes make sense. And excellent chainsaws.
 
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