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  1. Dean

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    One of the comic-book elements of Lazar's 1989 account was that the purported captured spacecraft were powered by "element 115," an element that he claimed could not be synthesized on Earth. Since then element 115, moscovium (also known as ununpentium) has been synthesized, but the heaviest and most stable isotope synthesized (moscovium-290) has a half-life of only 0.65 seconds.

    In my post above, I noted that Lazar's "United Nuclear" website sells T-shirts and coffee mugs that depict "Lazarium," which I said "is what Lazar calls element 115, which the rest of the world knows as moscovium." Looking today more closely at the United Nuclear catalog, I see that the term "Lazarium" is being applied by Lazar specifically to a hypothetical "stable isotope" of element 115, although no such stable isotope has actually been synthesized.

    A worthwhile podcast by Stuart Robbins (Exposing PseudoAstronomy no. 133, June 2, 2015) focused on Lazar's various claims regarding Element 115. According to Robbins, "the predicted maximum stability of the most stable version, ununpentium-291, is only seconds." However, in a post above, Thomas R. Morrison (while making it clear that he rejects Lazar's story) wrote, "According to the macro-microscopic nuclear model used by the world’s leading superheavy elements research facility – the Joint Institute for Nuclear Research (JINR) in Dubna, Russia (which is how element 115 got the name Moscovium), the center of the island of stability is around the doubly magic nuclear number Z = 114 and N = 184, so the most stable isotope of element 115 is probably Moscovium-299, not 291. And according to the research director of the JINR, Dr. Yuri Oganessian, who’s widely considered to be the world’s leading researcher on this subject, isotopes near the center of the island of stability could have half-lives on the order of thousands or even millions of years . . ."

    You will note that the "Lazarium" T-shirt and mug have incorporated this predicted stable atomic weight of 299.

    The Robbins podcast can be heard at Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133

    A complete Robbins transcript: Exposing PseudoAstronomy Podcast - Shownotes Episode 133
     

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  2. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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  3. wwkirk

    wwkirk Celestial

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    It seems that most UFO enthusiasts on Facebook consider him legit.
     
  4. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    can see, why
    nobody that wants to be taken seriously calls himself a UFO enthuasist, the correct term is ufologist or forteanist
     
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    Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell
     
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  6. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    No Sir, I debate this fully, moscovium Is, in fact, a synthetic element it is a synthesized variant of Element 115 which is properly called Ununpentium. synthetic elements do not belong on the periodic table, And I will debate this till the better end, Moscow did not discover 115. they have a different, hack meat periodic table that real science basically not only scoffs at But laughs at and calls it names. We can debate this or you can fold, But Moscovium is a synthetic, And it's not true 115. Moscovium not only has a completely different half-life than true 115 it has different properties, and the jury is still out in Russia on if it should be stricken from the table, Just because Russia wants credit for 115, Doesn't mean that's what happened. And it isn't.
     
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  7. Shadowprophet

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    I mean yeah, Moscovium is debatably a breakthrough, But to be on the periodic table, An element has to occur periodically in nature. Moscovium being a synthetic Never occurs periodically or naturally, It's made in a lab. It's more or less a metamaterial of sorts, It is important, It has its uses for study, It's just not true 115 and it doesn't belong on the periodic table is all.
     
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  8. nivek

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    People are so gullible when it comes to that fraud Lazar, I see his 'fans' lapping this program up today on social media...I bet he's scamming good money now riding off the coat tails of TTSA...

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  9. nivek

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    Is this true, did Lazar say this?...

     
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  10. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    sounds like BS, otherwise there would be a lot more noise surrounding it
     
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  11. Shadowprophet

    Shadowprophet Truthiness

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    Would there though? I mean the guys pretty much a laughing stock even to the most hardcore paranormal circles.
    I mean maybe it would make some kind of news. But really though, I think his fifteen minutes may be up. It's almost like if Paul Rubin came back to play pee wee Herman, Nobody would really care.

    Come to think of it, It's exactly like that.

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    :p
     
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  12. Shadowprophet

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    This isn't Bob Lazar related and it can be moved, But here is This, I always find it important when ufology makes the official news.

     
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  13. nivek

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    It's really saddening to me, I like the TTSA guys on twitter, man they are right on point with information and perspective of TTSA but damn, they just lap up every word the fraud Lazar says like it's gospel...It's really saddening to see that, they are so bamboozled by Lazar...

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  14. Shadowprophet

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    What I don't get about Lazar is, Everyone claims he's this great physicist, But, I'm not claiming to be a physics God or anything, But I at least have a reputation of an interest in physics, The thing Bob does is he talks about how great he is at physics and engineering and aerodynamics, But then he spouts nonsense words and says, Oh, That's what "we Call this principle," Well, Textbooks do not. People who learn from textbooks do not If I started speaking physics and began using words like, Cafliburlator and Snoughtourge model. How is that higher education when it's fabricated nonsense and the source would have been me? Then he goes into outright Science fiction, Stating things like Gravity A and Gravity B. Which is clearly his misinterpretation of strong and weak interaction, And clearly incorrect and he tries to assert that " Oh You guys, Just don't understand physics this complicated" He's not only a fraud, He's infuriating and a little insufferable.
     
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  15. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    i wish
    if you make a thread in reddit asking what they think of lazar, 50% will tell that they believe in it
     
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  16. humanoidlord

    humanoidlord ce3 researcher

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    yup they are also milking the recent "alien autopsy" bullshit for all its good
     
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