Yup - that's why I replied the way I did when you posted that link about involuntary invisibility. Upstate just a bit, worked in the NY Metro area for a long time. These days Manhattan's a visit, not work. Thank God. Had more of that than I ever need. I was hoping you'd come in to Tony's dressed as a MiB and tell me I was urgently needed at The Office and hook me outta there Actually, the family dinner was fine but I have a fine sense of how an animal can chew it's own leg off to escape a trap. 'Pigfarmer' is a Harley reference and the nickname got hung on me years ago, even before I bought my Wide Glide. You got at least one Hog you iz a Pigfarmer ...... no, no actual swine for this kid beyond an occasional BLT.