Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by Justice Fodor, Feb 8, 2019.
That I agree with. Hoarding and hinting accomplishes nothing except to fuel a rumor mill
Yes, no matter what he has or thinks he has or doesn't have, that behavior only causes trouble.
Here are the seven "Ray Stanford Close-Up" threads posted so far. Anyone with a question, comment, or suggestion that he or she does not wish to post in public, is welcome to send it to me via e-mail. My address is my first name, followed by a single underscore, followed by my last name, @protonmail-dot-com
1. Ray Stanford Close Up No. 1:
Ray Stanford and His Ever-Receding Claims of World-Shaking UFO Evidences
2. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 2:
Ray Stanford and His Super-Power-Inducing Time Machine (AKA "The Hilaron Accelerator")
3. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 3:
Ray Stanford's Instructions for Greeting the Occupants of the UFO That Would Land (1973)
4. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 4:
Ray Stanford and his NASA-Goddard UFO-Metal Cover-Up Claim (1964)
5. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 5:
Ray Stanford's Claim to Have a Piece of a Gigantic Intergalactic Spacecraft (Space Material)(1971)
6. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 6:
Ray Stanford Close-Up #6 - Audio Excerpts of Stanford Speaking & Channeling Aramda of "The Watchers"
7. Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 7:
Ray Stanford Close-Up No.7: Claims the U.S. Air Force Offered to Scramble Jets at Stanford Requests
Indeed and a reflection of how these cosmic god theories about UFOs seem to be bringing humanity yet another new barbaric religion, as if this world needs that...
I don't want to derail this thread, but the most common complaint about any "trickster" explanation for weird things in general and UFO reports specifically, is that they tend to simply replace "God's will" with "trickster", getting us precisely nowhere.
The various trickster traditions and myths are very interesting to study, and they can tell us an awful lot about human nature, but as with any such cultural artifacts it is important to keep them in context. The internet has turned out to be an extremely effective tool for stripping away context and leaving a lot of wildly misleading debris scattered at random. It gets really deep in some places.
I find the religious aspects entering UFO conversation problematic, worst are usually coming from the "UFOs are demons" crowd. What a load of horseshit. We didnt survive the dark ages to go right back into them.
Excellent work, truly you have covered the topic of Ray Stanford quite well...I have to ask though, because this one question cannot escape me, what if the images are real images of alien craft of some sort?...In other words, what if he's not making it up about the images?...Granted we may never know for sure, there may lay some proof in those images of something extraordinary and quite alien to us, its also hard to understand the rational of people sometimes...
well how do i understand something wich i don't even know what it is, its so blurry and ambiguous that it could be anything
i doubt it would be anything better than what we already have, but it still would be interesting
here's the golden rule: if various stories made by various people of all social categories contain similar elements wich they shouldn't know or contains reference to obscure mithology or occult symbolism, you know something is up
also obviously, an image is much more easier to analysis than a story
the fact that he only wants selected people to see it is a HUGE red flag IMO, and i have no idea how a veteran ufologist like you can't see this obvious element of the story
now you are making fun of my posting quantity? have you ever heard of something called free speech?
nivek, i never mentioned anything related to the cosmic trickster here, why are you and thomas derailing the thread? i have already talked about all this, but its pretty clear that its a senseless battle, neither of us will change your belief
i don't belong to that crowd
in fact i think alleged manifestations of angels and demons are the same thing, the phenomena can make itself sound good or evil to whoever it wants, thats why its so confusing, it isn't meant to make sense
Getting back to Ray Stanford: I have responded to issues raised above by Thomas R. Morrison, and by others elsewhere, in a new thread,
Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 8: Unearthly Crystal, Alien Pilot, Faraday Rings, and Magnetometer Data
On March 8, 2019, Ray Stanford gave a long interview on a podcast called UFO Classified, during which he discussed a few of the UFO-evidence claims that have been critiqued in my series of "Ray Stanford Close-Up" posts. My commentary on these new statements by Stanford are found in this post:
Ray Stanford Close-Up No. 9:
Stanford Swipes at His Critics; Plus Alien Fingers,
"A Major Government Operation," and
the Stanford-Goddard-NASA Connection
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