Discussion in 'UFOs & Sightings' started by nivek, Feb 9, 2019.
Is Ray Stanford involved in this somehow?
Oh God I hope so.
Interesting cake coincidence. I don’t Tweetfacechat
Speaking about this meta-material MJ Banias has a nice write-up about this...
Tom DeLonge’s UFO Organization Says It’s Obtained ‘Exotic’ Metals Unknown to Science
It hasn't posted any proof yet, but the former Blink 182 singer's group says it is currently studying materials to see if they came from a UFO.
Former Blink 182 frontman and current UFOlogist Tom DeLonge says that his UFO research organization has acquired “potentially exotic materials featuring properties not from any known existing military or commercial application.” It has not yet provided any proof to back up this claim.
For 70 years, the UFO community has been engaged in active debate regarding physical debris from unidentified flying objects, but the general public got a true taste of that in 2017 when the New York Times ran an article about a secret Pentagon UFO program. The article tantalizingly noted that aerospace billionaire Robert Bigelow, whose interest in UFOs is no secret, modified buildings to house “metal alloys and other materials…that [allegedly] had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.”
These "alien alloys" quickly became the topic of great intrigue. DeLonge's To the Stars Academy, a UFO research outfit that may or may not be broke, said that it has recently acquired some metamaterials, though it's not clear whether they are the same ones referenced in the NY Times article.
“The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application,” Steve Justice, To The Stars Academy's COO and former head of Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works said in a statement. “They've been collected from sources with varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation, so we are focusing on verifiable facts and working to develop independent scientific proof of the materials' properties and attributes. In some cases, the manufacturing technology required to fabricate the material is only now becoming available."
Justice said that the organization wants to reverse engineer the metals with hopes of manufacturing more of them.
The press release related to these metals is incredibly vague—little information is given regarding the physical characteristics of the materials nor does it provide any data which even suggests the materials are truly “ground-breaking.”
In the press release, Justice said that the materials have “been collected from sources with varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation, so we are focusing on verifiable facts and working to develop independent scientific proof of the materials' properties and attributes.”
According to the press release, some of these materials were in the possession of investigative journalist and UFO researcher Linda Moulton Howe, who, in 2004, gave a presentation at the Xcon Conference regarding these materials. In her lecture, a video of which has been on the internet for years, she suggests that the material could become a “lifting body” with the right amount of electromagnetic static and certain RF frequency. These are undoubtedly the same materials mentioned by DeLonge on his Joe Rogan interviewwhere he stated, “if you hit it with enough terahertz, it’ll float.”
In an interview with Motherboard, Dr. Chris Cogswell, who hosts the Mad Scientist Podcast and who holds a PhD in Chemical Engineering, explained that we need to be incredibly cautious before jumping to conclusions. He expressed that layered magnesium and bismuth alloys are pretty common and are certainly easily explainable by science.
“Micrometer thick layers are made by mistake in metallurgy facilities all the time. The purification of lead by removing bismuth using magnesium is a perfectly reasonable explanation,” he said.
He explained that if these materials are truly exotic, then initial results should come relatively quickly: "The facilities to analyze these solids are readily available. If they have materials, we should be seeing progress because these tests would take all of a month to run and analyze to see if there is something worth pursuing."
Any claims of actual evidence related to UFOs should be taken skeptically, of course, but To the Stars has in the past been the first to publish video of military pilots seeing UFOs, so its claims cannot be dismissed immediately out of hand. It's also worth noting that there are, of course, many materials scientists working on new alloys and composites all the time.
Until some actual rigorous third party scientific testing occurs, or a peer-reviewed paper in an academic journal is published, the best course of action here is to just wait and see.
What information provokes this question?
Or was it intended to be satirical?
I knew it!
Update on Ray Stanford's Claim to Have a Piece of a Gigantic Intergalactic Spacecraft (Space Material)
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Congressman Mark Walker Wants To Know if Elizondo’s UFO Debris Claim is True
Thanks to Chris Wolford for this lead. On 7-26-19 Congressman Mark Walker appeared on Tucker Carlson Tonight. The congressman, who is the member of the Homeland Security Committee, sent a letter to Navy Secretary Richard Spencer asking for answers. Walker references the new infrared radar systems in the jets that are picking of UAP/UFOs. Walker says he has no evidence to support that UFOs come from other countries, but they don’t know if they do. Walker wants to know if AATIP has continued. When asked about Lue Elizondo’s claim that the United States has UFO Debris (metamaterials) he said, “We don’t know, but that’s one of the four questions that we are asking. Is there evidence being held somewhere (not to get too spooky once again) but if there is evidence I believe it’s important for people specifically in my position, as the ranking member of terrorism/counter-intelligence, we need to know what this is.”
First Trump was asked about Elizondo’s claim, now another important politician has been directly asked by Tucker Carlson about UFO Debris. TTSA has been claiming to have been collecting UFO Debris aka Metamaterials for over a year, but this new attention on whether the United States has them, thanks to Elizondo’s comment on Tucker Carlson Tonight months ago, and starting with the first New York Times article, could be an opening in the conversation that Disclosure activists have been asking for. Today’s comments represent another huge win for To the Stars Academy. Hopefully the buzz in Washington will continue and the politicians asking for answers (and the public) will receive them.
Here's a full transcript of the Tucker Carlson and Rep. Mark Walker interview by Keith Basterfield...
Congressman Mark Walker and UAP
By Keith Basterfield
US Congressman Mark Walker was recently interviewed by Fox Newsman Tucker Carlson about UAP. The interview aired on Fox News Channel's "Tucker Carlson Tonight" on 26 July 2019. As there were a number of interesting exchanges during the interview, I have chosen to present my transcript of the entire interview for blog readers to digest. After the transcript, I will, as usual, have a few comments to make
TC - Well, after decades of denial, and secrecy, and flat out lying, America's defense establishment is finally admitting some of what it knows about UFOs. The Navy have admitted that its pilots encounter unidentified aircraft, so often, that they have had to draft new reporting guidelines to allow pilots to come forward. It is easy to find this funny, but it is also scary if you think about it.
Our vast, well funded, defense establishment is seeing things in the sky, they cannot account for; doing things they cannot understand. Should we be worried?
Congressman Mark Walker is a republican, representing the state of North Carolina, just sent a letter to the Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer, about the military's UFO investigations. We recently spoke to the Congressman. Here's part of what he had to say.
TC - Should we be worried?
MW - Well, we are concerned about it. As the ranking member of Terrorism and Counterintelligence, we have questions. It comes down to some of the new infrared radar systems that we are putting into some of our new jets, are detecting some things out there. We call them Unidentified Aerial Threats, something we are looking at, UAPs are what we call it. We want to know the information, and that's why it's important we take a look at this.
TC - So this has been going on an awful long time. There is a lot of data the government has stored about this this, most of this I think is still classified. There must be theories about what these objects, what these aircraft are. What's the most plausible theory do you think?
MW - Well, we don't know for sure, obviously. What we do know is; the question we are wanting to get to. Is this something that is a defense mechanism from another country? We do know that China is looking at hypersonic missiles. That's 25,000 kilometres, or to break it down into our language, getting from DC, where I'm at, to LA in about 9 minutes. We don't know if nuclear warheads can be attached to those. Is it something like that, or is it something more? We don't know. But I feel like it is something that we must take a look at and that is why we've written to Secretary Spencer of the Navy.
TC - Is there any indication that you're aware, that these sightings are foreign aircraft? Russian or Chinese aircraft?
MW - We don't know. We have no evidence to support that. We do know there's something that's travelling at that speed of what we call hypersonic now, which is mach 4 or 5, not to get too technical.
That is something that we want to know. Is this something that another defense system in another country is more advanced, or is it something else? We are not trying to spook people out, but the AATIP, which basically a program that the government monitors this, was to close down in 2017. So part of my question, Tucker, is it really closed down; are we still spending resources; or is there more documentation that this program is still being able to file somewhere? That's something we need to know. Even if its just for defense purposes alone.
TC - We spoke to a government employee who has worked on this issue, who said the US government has wreckage from one of these aircraft. Do you know anything about that?
MW - We don't know, but that's one of the four questions that we are asking. Is there evidence being held somewhere; not to get too spooky once again. But if there is evidence, I believe it is important for people, specifically in my position as the ranking member of Terrorism and Counterintelligence. We need to know about this.
TC - Of course, and these are all legitimate questions. Hopefully, you are not being bullied or mocked into not asking them. I hope you will come back and tell us what the answers are.
MW - We look forward; when we find out; to come back. Thank you Tucker.
1. Walker says that there is no evidence to support the objects as being Russian or Chinese aircraft.
2. He states that the objects are capable of hypersonic velocities.
3. In fact, he uses the words "...or something more..." and "...or is it something else?" in two places during the interview, hinting at a non Russian or Chinese origin.
4. Carlson mentions that a government employee [Elizondo -KB] said that the US government has wreckage from one of these aircraft. When Walker is asked "Do you know anything about that?" Walker doesn't answer with "yes" or "no" but with "We don't know," then goes on to say that that is a question they are asking.
5. I look forward to Walker's return to the show, when he provides the responses from the Secretary of the Navy.
As a member of the Homeland Security committee, Mark Walker is giving way too many “I don’t know” answers as to what is going on with the UFO question and AATIP.
This is a very interesting read and description of the meta-material, for those who haven't read his before...
Is Alleged UFO Crash Site all it's Cracked Up to be?
Report Compiled By Scientific Research Technologist Indicates Earthly Origin, Howe Says Material Is Still Anomaly
[Note: Howe has recently posted a story on her website regarding the so-called Roswell metal. You must subscribe to Howe's website in order to read the story, which I will not as I believe this information should be free. The following article contains a little known report from a scientific technologist who examined the metal with interesting results...results Howe has not to my knowledge made public.]
The following was foundpromoting the sale of a Linda Howe lecture from the X-Conference:
" SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE: INVESTIGATIVE UFO SCIENCE AND BISMUTH/MAGNESIUM LAYERING OF ARTIFACT FROM WHITE SANDS, NEW MEXICO IN 1947, with Linda Moulton Howe. Show me the evidence! Find out what it is like to investigate hard evidence when your own government says there is nothing there, universities are scared to use their resources, foundations will not provide funding and peer review science is closed off. The amazing tale of a unique layered metal allegedly removed from a wedge-shaped aerial vehicle of unknown origin at White Sands, New Mexico, in 1947 "I have basically exhausted every resource that I have ever tried to use from about 1940 to now. I have found no reference, even in government research, for bismuth/magnesium layers. This material didn't just make itself. It had to come from somewhere. ...And nobody's told anyone about this material!" Travis Taylor, Physicist working for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Redstone Army Arsenal, Huntsville, Alabama. In her presentation Linda will have a physical sample of the unidentified layered metal for the workshop audience to see and touch, plus video and audio excerpted from her 9-year effort to find a source in government, military or civilian sector anywhere in the world with knowledge about layering 1-4 microns of pure bismuth with 100-200 microns of nearly pure magnesium. For more information visit www.Earthfiles.com XCon-728V o UPC 8 82917 07283 3 o 72 min o VHS Video o $24.95 +++ XCon-728D o UPC 8 82917 07289 5 o 72 min o DVD Disk o $24.95 "
After seeing the above, ufowatchdog.com just wants to remind folks of a little known scientific report compiled at the request of Linda Howe. In the report seen below, scientific technologist Nicholas A. Reiter examined the alleged UFO crash debris, he also successfully replicated the metal and presented Howe with a sample. ufowatchdog.com was told by Reiter that Howe reportedly scoffed at the results of the report because the replicated material was not 100% "exactly" like the alleged UFO crash debris Howe has been advertising as being mysterious. Reiter stated in a letter to ufowatchdog.com, " [Linda's] opinion was that what I had offered had no resemblance to her sample. But she never did make any detailed and accurate reference to it either."
Reiter also mentioned that Howe was reporting the mystery metal would move when high voltage was applied to it. Reiter stated that a piece of a soda can, or just about any metal for that matter, would move with enough voltage running through it.
Odd that Howe would report everything showing the piece to be unusual, yet not report on the conclusions of the report found below. On a side note, the scientific technologist that compiled this report at the request of Howe is the same scientific technologist Howe used to examine the bogus Brazil UFO Abduction. Howe wasn't apparently satisfied with those results and chose to use someone else to examine the materials after Reiter and another scientist concluded there was nothing unusual about the evidence. Howe went on to champion that case in spite of an analysis done by two scientists she has used in the past without question.
The report compiled by Reiter can be found below:
Summary of our Analysis of the Claimed Roswell Crash Artifact as Discussed on "The Art Bell Show" - 1996
First draft presented to Linda Moulton Howe
07 August 1996
Nicholas A. Reiter
Updated November 30, 2001
The following report appears here for the first time, at least in it's original form. It represents a most interesting adventure in the realm of UFO detective work. Some readers may recall the on-going debate on the Art Bell show back in 1996 and 1997 relating to the claimed fragment of the crashed Roswell saucer. Research into the claimed artifact was hosted and managed by author and UFO personality Linda Moulton Howe. Linda had partitioned the fragment presented to Art Bell into smaller sections that were then analyzed at assorted labs around the country. NR was one of the chosen. As the reader will see, we had a bit of a leg up on this one.
The metal sample was eventually returned to Linda Howe, though we retain a very tiny fragment to this day, with her permission. While our analysis of the sample by SEM and EDS spectroscopy agreed with that performed at the other labs, our opinion of the origin of the sample did not represent the final "verdict" that appeared to win out on Art Bell's show, or later literary references. We were, and remain, skeptical for reasons that will become apparent. Following the text of the report is a short update. Read on, and remember that nothing is as it seems…
On 12 July, 1996, I received by Fed Ex a small metal artifact from LMH. The purported origin of this piece, as well as highlights of previous analytical work, had been revealed to me by LMH in earlier telephone conversations. Along with the artifact portion, I received several color photographs of the parent artifact, as well as some SEM photos, and a written summary of previous EDS and SIMS work. After personal viewing by me, the original photos were sent back to LMH.
From 12 July to the present, I have performed numerous simple tests and analytical operations on the sample. The results of these tests, to date, are summarized here.
II. Physical Characteristics
The artifact appears to be a small chunk of lightweight metal, sawed or micro-tomed from a larger parent piece. It is irregular in contour, and measured (as received) about 22mm x 4mm x 6mm. Of the two non-cut sides, one is of a silvery colour, textured with many small convex "bumps". The other side is of a gold- black colour, with a fluted surface; a concave "negative" of the silvery side topography. Upon handling, a thin (about 1mm thick) portion delaminated from the original piece. This smaller portion broke away along a line following the contour of the primary piece. The smaller portion retained the characteristics of silvery and blackish sides, with the now exposed surface of the large portion being silvery - convex. The smaller fragment was reserved for destructive testing.
Initial visual inspection, along with inspection of the photos of the parent artifact, shows a clear columnar structure along with discrete bands or layers. The artifact, overall, appears to be quite brittle. An end of the thin delaminated portion was easily snapped off with finger pressure.
The overall appearance of the piece, and it’s parent, strongly suggests rapid epitaxial growth.
A Jeol JSM - T330 SEM was used to examine portions of the smaller artifact fragment. Photos taken showed features quite similar to those seen previously during recent analysis carried out at another midwestern location. The layering effect is quite noticeable. Crystal structure of the light grey metal, composing the thicker layers, is indeterminate visually. Original SEM photos taken at this location have been forwarded to LMH for use with this summary.
III. Composition and Chemical Properties
A Tracor Northern 5400 EDS X ray analyzer was used to examine compositions of both silvery and blackish regions. The silvery region is shown to be relatively pure Mg, with a small signal for Zn; perhaps indicating about 2 to 3% of the latter. The blackish region appears to be primarily Bi. Please reference attached EDS print-outs. Again, this corroborates results from earlier EDS and SIMS work done elsewhere.
A small crumb of the artifact was held by tweezers over a hydrogen torch flame. It ignited and burned with the characteristic white flare of Mg. A small curl of 99.99% Mg was likewise ignited for comparison. Both appeared to burn identically.
IV. Nuclear Properties
The larger artifact portion was tested with a Baird Atomic 914-434 Ratemeter (Geiger Counter). No indications of radioactivity were noted.
Questions had been raised by LMH as to whether the materials in the artifact were of common (predominant or stable) isotope. The only testing possible at this location for this purpose was a simple Archimedian volume versus weight test. The volume of the large artifact portion was determined by displacement of water in a pipette. Correcting for estimated volumes of Zn and Bi, a calculated weight was derived for the artifact, given the textbook densities for Mg24 , Zn, and Bi. This value was calculated to be .5155g. The artifact was then weighed with a Stanton CL1 lab balance, and actual weight over three trials was found to be .5115g, about 0.7% lighter than the calculated value. From this, we may say that the artifact, while possibly containing small percentages of heavier Mg isotopes, does not appear to be primarily composed of Mg25 or Mg26.
V. Electrical Properties
The artifact appears to be quite conductive; and in any orientation, has a resistance too low to measure with a typical ohm-meter.
A Fluke 79 DVM was used to look for any voltage potentials or currents which (by some hypotheses) might be produced by the layering of dissimilar metals or other more unusual mechanisms. None were detected in the range of the meter.
VI. Magnetic Properties
The artifact was tested with a custom - built Hall effect gaussmeter. No discernable magnetic field was noted. The artifact was not seen to be attracted by a NdFeB magnet.
It had been suggested that the layered structure of the artifact resembled proposed structures for high temperature filamentary superconductors. A small NdFeB super magnet was used in an attempt to elicit a Meissner Effect reaction with the artifact, both at room temperature, and in a beaker of liquid nitrogen. No effect was noticed.
VII. Testing for Unusual Properties
The artifact was radiated with light from a .5mW 670nm diode laser, at various angles. No unusual effects or responses were noted.
The artifact was radiated with light from a 100watt long wave ultraviolet lamp. No fluorescence or unusual response was noted.
The artifact was suspended within an electrical field of about 3 to 4 kV at 20 kHz. No unusual responses were noted.
It had been suggested to LMH that the artifact structure was possibly indicative of a hypothetical propulsion system, and that extremely high DC potentials applied to the metal structure would cause it to lose weight! To test this idea, the artifact was mounted on a plastic stand, which in turn was placed on a Mettler BasBal 2400 digital lab balance. A very thin lead wire was attached to the artifact with a snippet of conductive tape, and then connected to a HV source. Two sources were used, a +/- 15,000V DC, 60VA supply (GE 9T63Y2226G2) and a small Van De Graaf generator providing about 30 to 50 kV electrostatic potential.
In either case, no weight changes within the resolution of the balance (10mg) were noted when the HV sources were turned on. However, according to LMH’s source, potentials over 1MV might be needed to cause weight loss (?!).
At the most basic of levels, we would freely state that the artifact portion provided by LMH does NOT seem to be composed of elements or compounds which are unknown. Nor is it composed of alloys that appear to be of a purity or combination beyond the scope of current material science. The artifact bears a strong resemblance to irregular layered residue often found in large physical vapor deposition (PVD) coaters. This family of filming processes includes sputtering, E-beam, and resistively heated thermal evaporation; all common vacuum processes used widely in industry. The structure of the artifact very strongly suggests long term, high rate, disordered epitaxial growth on a cold surface (chilled evaporant shield? chamber walls?).
I have spent nearly 12 years working in the thin film and vacuum process fields. Some years ago, I worked as a technician for a company in Ohio that ran the world’s largest commercial E-beam coater. One of my duties was to remove chromium residue from the areas around the large E-beam evaporation sources. Hundreds of pounds of chips, flakes, and chunks of columnar layered chromium residue were removed at a time. (Usually weekends - third shift!) If I had not known the composition of the artifact when first viewing the colour photos of it, I would have honestly guessed that someone had done me the honor of saving a souvenir from my old job- a chrome residue chunk from the focus magnet pole piece of an Airco Temescal E-beam source! Rough calculations, coupled with past work experience would hint that residues of the thickness of the artifact represent 80 to 120 hours of build up time, in your typical large sputter or E-beam coater. We used to chip ours out every two weeks or so.
The composition of the Mg:Zn alloy comes close to several commercial Mg alloys: ASTM#’s ZK60A, ZK51A, and EZ33A. All of these alloys, however, are said to have a very small quantity of Zr, typically 0.5% to 0.7%. I have been informed that Zr was not seen in earlier EDS scans at other locations, nor did it seem to be evident in my analysis of the artifact. However, I do also know that at least for our TN 5400, resolution below about 1% is usually not possible. Zr may have simply been below the resolution of the EDS. (Information from The Mechanical Engineers Handbook, 1958 edition, McGraw Hill Book Co.)
It is also evident that the artifact does not, at least in it’s current state of condition, seem to produce any voltages or currents, nor does it act as a superconductor, at least at room temperature or at 77K.
The remaining unusual aspect of the artifact is quite simply the combination of Mg and Bi in a single structure. Mg, of course, finds most use in the automotive and aerospace industry, as a lighter weight substitute for aluminum. It may also be used to make some optical grade films or plating. Bi, on the other hand, has several unusual properties that suit it to more specialized high tech applications. It is often a component in solders and is added to some lower temperature cast-able alloys because it has the characteristic of expanding about 2 to 3 percent upon cooling. It is used in thermoelectric power modules or Peltier coolers along with tellurium. It is the most diamagnetic element known, and the most electro-negative. A patent by Carroll claims Bi as a possible filamentary superconductor at high temperatures. Bi is itself super-conducting at low temperatures.
To date, I have been unable to find any references to uses of Mg and Bi together in one process or product! LMH has claimed that officials at Dow, one of the largest Mg producers in the world, are unaware of any use of Bi in their manufacturing processes.
Of course, this is not to say that there is not some very specialized use of Mg in a Bi application, or vica versa, we have simply not found it yet in our "detective work".
My own opinion is that the artifact probably represents a curious piece of industrial by-product from the thin films industry or a Mg casting plant. However, until a match-up is found, I will not rule out the possibility of a more unusual origin.
Notes, as of November 2001:
In the year or so that followed the analysis by us of this sample, the mythos and mystery of the bismuth - magnesium artifact continued to grow. It became the source for a wide range of speculations, some valid, some baseless, among the anti-gravity and UFO research sub-cultures. The extraterrestrial origin of the artifact appeared to be firmly entrenched in the minds of most who listened, read, and believed. Presumably, there just aren't very many old films and vacuum technology folks out there…
Claims were made by a Tesla coil enthusiast in Alabama that the portion of the artifact in his possession acted strangely and tried to levitate in the presence of the electrostatic field of a Van de Graaf generator and a radio frequency source. We did perform a separate replication here, and found that our metal fragment danced about as well in the field of a Van de Graaf. And so did a piece of aluminum foil! Please understand that just about any small unattached mass will dance in the field of a 200,000 volt source! The mythos grew…
In 2000, one last revelation came our way on the origin of the artifact. The combination of bismuth and magnesium had eluded us for four years. But then one day, we found a reference to an obscure industrial process used in the refinement of lead. The process, called the Betterton-Krohl Process, uses molten magnesium floated over the surface of liquid lead. The magnesium sucks up, or pulls bismuth impurities out of the lead! Often, the magnesium is used over and over again…
Could this little known process have been the real origin of some unusual looking metal residue, that was then in turn promoted as a piece of alien technology?
Has anyone seen this video?...Quite interesting, is this the exact same stuff TTSA has?...
Well here is a write up from IFLS site, putting more pressure on TTSA to provide more proof of their claims...I still cannot get over them using a stock natural mineral in an image promoting the meta-material they 'claim' to possess...
Blink 182 Frontman's UFO Organization Says It's Obtained Materials "Unknown" To Science
A UFO organization launched by former Blink 182 frontman Tom DeLonge says it has in its possession "groundbreaking metamaterials" unknown to science.
The materials, he claims (in all caps) in an Instagram post, came from "UNIDENTIFIED VEHICLES", though he and his organization To The Stars Academy have not yet offered proof of this or any of their other out-of-this-world claims.
"We have been able to establish that the material shows highly advanced and anomalous engineering capabilities," DeLonge, most famous for hits such as Apple Shampoo, said in an enigmatic Instagram post alongside what appear to be photos of the material.
"This acquisition will allow us to expand the scope of our ADAM Research Project and accelerate R&D that could lead to numerous aerospace and engineering breakthroughs."
Over several posts, he showed off low-res images of the material.
"The structure and composition of these materials are not from any known existing military or commercial application,” COO of the organization Steve Justice said in a statement. "They've been collected from sources with varying levels of chain-of-custody documentation, so we are focusing on verifiable facts and working to develop independent scientific proof of the materials' properties and attributes.
"In some cases, the manufacturing technology required to fabricate the material is only now becoming available, but the material has been in documented possession since the mid-1990s."
People have been somewhat skeptical, as you'd imagine. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and what we have so far is a low-res picture of what looks like a rock tweeted by a former rockstar.
People have asked why they would tweet such a low-res image, or a stock image, when what you'd likely want if you had discovered potential unearthly materials is as many eyes as possible to rule out any earthly explanations.
Nevertheless, the organization has gone big with claims about the material of unknown origin.
“If the claims associated with these assets can be validated and substantiated, then we can initiate work to transition them from being a technology to commercial and military capabilities,” said Justice.
“As noted in our October 2017 TTSA kickoff webcast, technologies that would allow us to engineer the spacetime metric would bring capabilities that would fundamentally alter civilization, with revolutionary changes to transportation, communication, and computation.”
A previous post by To The Stars Academy suggested that the material was Magnesium-Zinc-Bismuth.
Similar materials have made their way around the UFO circuit, author and writer for Skeptic magazine Jason Colavito wrote in a blog post when a similar sample surfaced in 2018. A possible suggestion as to what the "UFO" material could be, he documents, is that its good old-fashioned industrial waste.
“The combination of bismuth and magnesium had eluded us for four years. But then one day, we found a reference to an obscure industrial process used in the refinement of lead. The process, called the Betterton-Krohl Process, uses molten magnesium floated over the surface of liquid lead. The magnesium sucks up, or pulls bismuth impurities out of the lead."
Nivek, for some time you were pretty pro TTSA. Has your attitude shifted?
Honestly yes a little, I still get the vibe they are doing some good things but their business practices needs serious work and all this teasing and talk about meta-materials doesn't help things either...They should provide at least something substantial to prove they actually have that material in their possession...I think they wasted time and money on that mini-series or whatever its called on the History channel, it served no good purpose and lately they are asking for more investments but are showing nothing to justify investing in them, I had considered it a few months ago, glad I didn't...Right now I think they are just spinning their wheels and making a show of it, but if they don't put something on the table soon they will lose me and many others who had hopes for results of their efforts...
Perhaps it is because of all the UFO charlatans over the past few years, I didn't have much hope for TTSA. This group has had ample time to produce real evidence. All I really see these days is attempts to raise more money. If these people don't produce the UFO goods shortly, I could see this group fading away into the sunset.
Keith Basterfield has compiled a list of alleged UFO materials that have been analyzed and also which laboratories took part in the work...
A CATALOGUE OF ALLEGED “FRAGMENTS” REPORTEDLY ASSOCIATED WITH SIGHTINGS OF
UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENA WHERE ANALYSIS(ES) WAS/WERE CONDUCTED.
Compiled by Keith Basterfield
Separate names with a comma.