UFOnauts: What they look like...?

nix

Honorable
Jaime is the same guy that thinks a group of mylar balloons that were launched from a street corner (this was done on purpose for documentary purposes by the old MUFON director - the one guy that had a good head on his shoulders that eventually gave up the position - his name escapes me at the moment). The director was with Jaime on a rooftop looking for UFO's during daytime when all of a sudden a "shape shifting" UFO could be moving in the sky. Jaime was convinced (was he really or just acted so for sake of his show & reputation?) & it was funny for them to break the news to Jaime that one of the guys from MUFON bought the balloons and let them go into the air.

Everything Jaime sees (as well as his American counterpart Bill Birnes) is automatically a flying saucer & something that couldn't be performed as a hoax. Like when Birnes & his crack squad of UFO Hunters went to Morristown, NJ & were easily fooled by helium balloons with flares attached).
That was always my opinion of him as well. As for this particular case i am not saying either way. Video and photos look genuine but i that supposed fetus looks suspicious.
 

wwkirk

Divine
My open-minded skeptical take.

If aliens from any other planet or realm have come in contact with humans, they shouldn't automatically be believed when they say where they're from.
Unfortunately, even if they take the humans somewhere, it's still possible it's a trick. Look how good Hollywood is in creating non-real environments.

The Ganymede reports began as early as 1950, which may be before the environments across the solar systems were well understood. Note that other reported alien contacts from this general period mentioned Venus and other places in the solar system as where the ETs lived.

Since Ganymede does not appear capable of sustaining an advanced civilization at the present time, i would be more comfortable if the beings were said to be of a different plane of existence. I wouldn't then automatically believe the claim, but it would be sufficiently mysterious that I could drop it into my "gray basket."
 

nix

Honorable
While it is indeed recommended to be somewhat careful about ET's making claims, in most cases, i'd say close to 100% are honest, what does that mean, undue disbelief is wrong.

As for life in this solar system, while most planets like Venus, Jupiter, Saturn etc have civilizations that evolved beyond our visual range verging on the etheric, point is many moons and some planets are inhabited on our level STARTING WITH OUR MOON.

"as early as 1950, which may be before the environments across the solar systems were well understood"

My my, this makes me cringe. You are up for a cold, cold, cold, COLD shower. As i said, starting with our Moon to everything else.
 

pigfarmer

tall, thin, irritable
Basically what Bruce Fenton and his technosignatures has been on about is that our concept of extraterrestrial life needs to be expanded. My words but similar sentiment - we are necessarily anthropomorphic even when we try not to be. In other words, we frame it all in familiar concepts but by definition alien life is not familiar. By default we see things familiar to us, like a form of pareidolia.

What do truly alien creatures see when they look up at their alien clouds? Assuming they got eyeballs and clouds, that is.

Little grey black eyed creatures from crashed silver saucers will over time fall by the wayside much like the earlier descriptions of Martians and Venusians and so forth have. Aliens that have human characteristics are suspect, IMO. Smacks of Star Trek's different forehead appliance each week.
 

Rick Hunter

Celestial
Basically what Bruce Fenton and his technosignatures has been on about is that our concept of extraterrestrial life needs to be expanded. My words but similar sentiment - we are necessarily anthropomorphic even when we try not to be. In other words, we frame it all in familiar concepts but by definition alien life is not familiar. By default we see things familiar to us, like a form of pareidolia.

What do truly alien creatures see when they look up at their alien clouds? Assuming they got eyeballs and clouds, that is.

Little grey black eyed creatures from crashed silver saucers will over time fall by the wayside much like the earlier descriptions of Martians and Venusians and so forth have. Aliens that have human characteristics are suspect, IMO. Smacks of Star Trek's different forehead appliance each week.

Yes!! This is what I have long believed: we see the aliens and interpret the meaning of contact according to our own cultural expectations, which are created by forces and institutions in society such as religion, government, science, folk magic, etc.
 

nix

Honorable
Population of our Moon is at least 100 million, most of that human, part humanoid.

That most still cannot accept this is another thing, despite tons and tons of photos of structures, bases, cities on the Moon, tons and tons of videos showing UFOs on the Moon - from Apollo and other missions to Earth bound telescopes, that there are centuries, millenia of observation of Trans Lunar Phenomena.....lights, clouds, objects..... endless, huuuuuge amount of clear indications Moon is very much inhabited.


View: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGlv5KC7i3mVhCbPc0gvwsA_

AND DESPITE, main narrative here and elsewhere is that life on the Moon is just a theory, a conspiracy theory, a myth. Irony.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
My open-minded skeptical take.

If aliens from any other planet or realm have come in contact with humans, they shouldn't automatically be believed when they say where they're from.
Unfortunately, even if they take the humans somewhere, it's still possible it's a trick. Look how good Hollywood is in creating non-real environments.

The Ganymede reports began as early as 1950, which may be before the environments across the solar systems were well understood. Note that other reported alien contacts from this general period mentioned Venus and other places in the solar system as where the ETs lived.

Since Ganymede does not appear capable of sustaining an advanced civilization at the present time, i would be more comfortable if the beings were said to be of a different plane of existence. I wouldn't then automatically believe the claim, but it would be sufficiently mysterious that I could drop it into my "gray basket."

The Juno spacecraft revealed that Ganymede possibly has an oxygen atmosphere even if somewhat tenuous...It is possible for some sort of intelligent life to exist on that moon with the proper technology in use however I seriously doubt any life evolved on that moon...

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nivek

As Above So Below
a different plane of existence.

I think this is the case with Jupiter and Saturn, there is an abundance of life on those 'planets', but I think they exist on a different plane of existence or if they do exist in our plane of existence then they are a type of life unrecognizable to our species at this time...

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nix

Honorable
No data from mainstream space agencies can be trusted, for any planet or moon. United in LIE. UIL is their ONLY name.

Moon has an atmosphere altho thinner but apparently breathable after a week long adjustment. Not to mention other moons and planets.

Conditions are totally different from what they claim, from Moon, Mars to everywhere else.
 
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Rick Hunter

Celestial
I think this is the case with Jupiter and Saturn, there is an abundance of life on those 'planets', but I think they exist on a different plane of existence or if they do exist in our plane of existence then they are a type of life unrecognizable to our species at this time...

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This 1000%. Humans think that if they can't perceive something by their own remarkably limited means, then it doesn't exist and that's the end of it
 

nix

Honorable
Truth is so far out it's bizzare. I wonder how many of you could deal with the fact so called astronauts on ISS are actors filmed in studio on Earth, watch this slowly and fully on repeat as needed.

I would love to discuss each particular scene in this video with skeptics.
These were obviously captured by flat earthers which is irrelevant.
Earth is of course not flat but flat earthers did a great job exposing the ISS fakery.

Whole video is truly amazing.

 
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Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Truth is so far out it's bizzare. I wonder how many of you could deal with the fact so called astronauts on ISS are actors filmed in studio on Earth, watch this slowly and fully on repeat as needed.

I would love to discuss each particular scene in this video with skeptics.
These were obviously captured by flat earthers which is irrelevant.
Earth is of course not flat but flat earthers did a great job exposing the ISS fakery.

Whole video is truly amazing.


WhatTruth is so far out it's bizzare. I wonder how many of you could deal with the fact so called astronauts on ISS are actors filmed in studio on Earth, watch this slowly and fully on repeat as needed.

I would love to discuss each particular scene in this video with skeptics.
These were obviously captured by flat earthers which is irrelevant.
Earth is of course not flat but flat earthers did a great job exposing the ISS fakery.

Whole video is truly amazing.



Truth is so far out it's bizzare. I wonder how many of you could deal with the fact so called astronauts on ISS are actors filmed in studio on Earth, watch this slowly and fully on repeat as needed.

I would love to discuss each particular scene in this video with skeptics.
These were obviously captured by flat earthers which is irrelevant.
Earth is of course not flat but flat earthers did a great job exposing the ISS fakery.

Whole video is truly amazing.


Before I watch this, what am I supposed to be looking for in this video?
 

Standingstones

Celestial
Tassili Desert flying figure thousands of years old.

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I am always fascinated by desert rock art. If only they could have left written text as well.
 

Creepy Green Light

Don't mistake lack of talent for genius
Basically what Bruce Fenton and his technosignatures has been on about is that our concept of extraterrestrial life needs to be expanded. My words but similar sentiment - we are necessarily anthropomorphic even when we try not to be. In other words, we frame it all in familiar concepts but by definition alien life is not familiar. By default we see things familiar to us, like a form of pareidolia.

What do truly alien creatures see when they look up at their alien clouds? Assuming they got eyeballs and clouds, that is.

Little grey black eyed creatures from crashed silver saucers will over time fall by the wayside much like the earlier descriptions of Martians and Venusians and so forth have. Aliens that have human characteristics are suspect, IMO. Smacks of Star Trek's different forehead appliance each week.
I think there is alien life out in our solar system right now. However, when I say alien life I mean organisms that you may have to put under an electron microscope to see or maybe bug-type things (like a sea cockroach) that you can see with the naked eye or even something like the creature living under the ice in the movie "Europa Report".

I would love to find out (like all of us on here) that on a planet does exist (our solar system or otherwise) that has a civilization of aliens that head a 10 million year head start before us that have housing, families, factories that produce technology that allows for so many things including factories where raw materials are turned into high tech "flying saucers" etc., but I quit holding my breath on that one.
 
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