Arguments Against ETH

ImmortalLegend527

The Messenger Of All Gods old and new
indeed it does, but my intuition says they are close guesses
i find it very unlikely that FTL travel is possible
In the year 2031 dark matter will be found to have an energy that can be harnassed and used.That dark energy will be mapped across certain parts of space and will be finished by 2039.The dark energy will be used as a booster for an engine that will be created for it.

This dark energy will be used like nitrogen to a cars engine, it will boost the speed of the ship and give it an hell of a boost.With out using rockets they simply just glided from dark matter spot to the next and to the next and the next spot.

Mortals will glide from planet to planet before ftl travel is possible.Thers enough dark matter to boost across the universe in due human time.

The big thing, with mortals, is that, you have to have light speed, to reach a destination across the universe because of time, aging, and fuel.Using this process it tok 3 months to get to mars.,,but that branch of the tree has not been opened yet for you mortals..and yet your species has not even started making air vehicals with engines in the bottom of the craft.The reason why i say the bottom because thats the only way it will be able to glide at those speeds.

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humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
In the year 2031 dark matter will be found to have an energy that can be harnassed and used.That dark energy will be mapped across certain parts of space and will be finished by 2039.The dark energy will be used as a booster for an engine that will be created for it.

This dark energy will be used like nitrogen to a cars engine, it will boost the speed of the ship and give it an hell of a boost.With out using rockets they simply just glided from dark matter spot to the next and to the next and the next spot.

Mortals will glide from planet to planet before ftl travel is possible.Thers enough dark matter to boost across the universe in due human time.

The big thing, with mortals, is that, you have to have light speed, to reach a destination across the universe because of time, aging, and fuel.Using this process it tok 3 months to get to mars.,,but that branch of the tree has not been opened yet for you mortals..and yet your species has not even started making air vehicals with engines in the bottom of the craft.The reason why i say the bottom because thats the only way it will be able to glide at those speeds.

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how you know that?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
impossible to have so much species visiting an unremarkable back waters planet, 1-2 is normal, more than a thousand is silly

Because we exploded nukes...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
just like thousands other sentient civilizations? oh, radiation doesnt travel pretty far either

It's not about radiation and we know nothing of nukes of other species only our own...
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
but still should we ignore the interdimensional theory yet?
it explains way better the higher strangeness encounters than the extraterrestrial theory does
for the time being im still sticking with the interdimensional theory
i remenber once hearing an encounter where a man said he entered an ufo, while his friend saw he enter an bus that misteriously dissapeared
we could claim this is just an "screen memory" but that is just an handwave, an way to we to ignore the unfortunate implications
and what do we make of the people that saw bigfoot exiting an ufo? similar species?! what do we make of mothman sightings that were proceded by ufo sightings? an coincidence?! what do we make of the skinwalker ranch? an hoax?! what do we make of the sightings of ufos making stuff that is just impossible? advanced tech?! what do we make of the joe simongton sighting were aliens litteraly cooked pancakes for him? an dumb hoax?!
and now for the smoking gun:
you can say whatever you want but: UFOS LOOK NOTHING LIKE REAL SPACESHIPS!dont believe me? well take a look at this amazingly well researched article:
Basic Design - Atomic Rockets
do ufos have heat radiators? no! do they have engines,hell even bizzare exotic ones like the orion drive? no! if we are to believe abductee and contactee reports they instead have an bizzare glowing thingy in the center of the ufo that somehow keeps it afloat! do they have an habitation module? no, the entire ufo is pressurized! do they have an airlock? no,they have an completely unprotected door to outside! do they have an spacesuit? well sometimes but that is mostly in older (50's to 70's) reports nowdays they like to walk stark naked just fine i could go on and on but my point has been made

I'm not sure you are barking up the right tree.

Most people wouldn't recognized a space intended heat dissipation system if it bit them in the ass.

Now - the intelligent way to dispose of waste heat is upconvert it to light or gamma radiation (stay away from Alien glowy things).

The Alien space drives probably generate zettawatts or more power. Have to be close to 100% efficient to avoid cooking everyone on board.

If you short the primary on a space drive it would look like a nuclear blast.
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
I'm not sure you are barking up the right tree.

Most people wouldn't recognized a space intended heat dissipation system if it bit them in the ass.

Now - the intelligent way to dispose of waste heat is upconvert it to light or gamma radiation (stay away from Alien glowy things).

The Alien space drives probably generate zettawatts or more power. Have to be close to 100% efficient to avoid cooking everyone on board.

If you short the primary on a space drive it would look like a nuclear blast.
thats the problem, the closest we have to an report of UFO radiator is the stephen michalak falcon lake CE2 encounter, but even that one has only an primitive vent based system
 

CasualBystander

Celestial
thats the problem, the closest we have to an report of UFO radiator is the stephen michalak falcon lake CE2 encounter, but even that one has only an primitive vent based system

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GOES Satellite Sounder Unit with radiative cooler indicated.

Vented cooling simply doesn't work in space.

NASA moonsuits cooled by spraying water on a plate and letting it evaporate/sublimate to space a "sublimator" in NASA terminology.

This wouldn't work for a spacecraft that is trying to dissipate heat for obvious reasons.

And what is an ETH???
 

nivek

As Above So Below
nukes arent that hard to develop, in fact most civilizations are in an higher level than yours

You don't know how many civilizations are out there and what levels of social or economic development they are in nor do you know their technological development...Nukes are a military weapon, perhaps some species in the universe NEVER developed nukes, not all civilizations follow our path...You're just putting a human face on your opinions of aliens...

All you know is hearsay from alleged contacts and sightings, nothing more...So please stop mudding the waters with alleged facts which are really nothing more than your opine...
 

humanoidlord

ce3 researcher
You don't know how many civilizations are out there and what levels of social or economic development they are in nor do you know their technological development...Nukes are a military weapon, perhaps some species in the universe NEVER developed nukes, not all civilizations follow our path...You're just putting a human face on your opinions of aliens...

All you know is hearsay from alleged contacts and sightings, nothing more...So please stop mudding the waters with alleged facts which are really nothing more than your opine...
nope thats scientific research i am basing it on, you is basing it on hearsay
 

nivek

As Above So Below
nope thats scientific research i am basing it on, you is basing it on hearsay

As I said:

You don't know how many civilizations are out there and what levels of social or economic development they are in nor do you know their technological development...No human on earth knows this information...
 
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