goblin
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It makes me wonder who his audience is there. The Paracast still seems to have some loyal listeners, and people who are sick of Gene but who miss the Paracast. But Tech Night Owl, I do wonder who listens.
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Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums
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It makes me wonder who his audience is there. The Paracast still seems to have some loyal listeners, and people who are sick of Gene but who miss the Paracast. But Tech Night Owl, I do wonder who listens.
GhostofBiedny
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I suspect there is no audience now which is one of the reasons why Gene is eager to sell it. He thinks that he can sell it and get some money out of it (the key point being he thinks this, nobody else does, the show is worthless) and then just start another crappy tech podcast to solicit more free stuff.
Standingstones
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Steinberg may have a few loyal listeners. His problem is they don’t pay him to listen to Paracast Plus, send him money or buy his junk. If you ever read the messages in the chat rooms, most of them don’t have a nickel to their names. It’s not exactly the kind of members that Steinberg want to cater to.
GhostofBiedny
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Steinberg doesn't seem to realise that if you want people to pay, you have to provide them with something they want to pay for that they can't get elsewhere for free. The Paracast as it is now is certainly not worth paying for.
Perhaps if Steinberg had used the last decade developing the show (instead of filling it with ads) he would actually have something that was profitable. Instead he has driven it into the ground and destroyed the forums along with it, whilst focussing the bulk of his energies (what little there is of them) on increasingly desperate grifting.
The way he says "if only 1000 people subscribed" - is typical blame shifting that is characteristic of Steinberg. He doesn't think about what he could do to make it a show that is an absolute must listen, instead the onus is on the listeners, they must do more.
No successful podcast (and there are a few) do this, but in Steinberg's mind everything he does is perfect, it is just the rest of the world that needs to change and cater to his whims. Therefore there was never any need to make the Paracast any better, it was just a case of getting the listeners to pay what they "owe" him.
Normally podcasts improve as time goes on. The paracast is the only one that has gotten progressively worse but Gene expects people to pay for it - because they owe him, same way the rest of the world owes him.
Standingstones
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The comical part is that Steinberg personally has done nothing to improve the show. All that was left up to the co-host. If a suitable guest was not available, one of the “friends of the show” would be asked to fill in. Those guests generally had nothing important to bring to the table. God forbid the subject of Roswell came up for the 100th time. Small wonder viewers turn off the program in droves.
The strange part was that this never seemed to phase Steinberg. It was business as usual. Make sure the ads played on time. Did he ever once think how wacko all this looked? Evidently not.
The strange part was that this never seemed to phase Steinberg. It was business as usual. Make sure the ads played on time. Did he ever once think how wacko all this looked? Evidently not.
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goblin
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Hm. I will guess a temporary outage with his hosting provider.
The shadow
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yep the whole site is down! maybe a glitch or Gene pulled the plug.
Standingstones
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Perhaps the sheriff was knocking on Steinberg’s door.
GhostofBiedny
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Maybe Anders materialised from Imaginationland to upgrade it.
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glitch its back
goblin
Noble
That would make sense. I guess he could still be doing the show to get free stuff, have people to talk to about a topic that interests him, and make it seem like there is something there worth purchasing. I don't know. He may get some other revenue by keeping it in production?
You'd have to pay me to listen to the Tech Night Owl even if it wasn't a production of (as Stephen Beizer called him) "the incomparable Gene Steinberg". I just have zero interest in that topic. Actually maybe less than zero. Either in spite of, or because I worked at Apple for several years back in the '90s. I dunno I am just not a gadget man.
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Dewey
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I think Gene just found his next guest for Tech Night Owl
GhostofBiedny
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Gene is incomparable in the sense that few other humans have been such lazy, lying, scheming scumbags who will do anything to avoid working and leech off everybody else. I suppose you could say he has reached the pinnacle in this one dimension.
humanoidlord
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frankly i am going to respect RPJ for now, he is pretty meh about this discussion and frankly i ain't gonna let a weirdo ruin his career
GhostofBiedny
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I seem to remember one particular wealthy listener who wanted to help Gene out asking how much Gene would need to get things in order.
Gene generated a magic figure of $200k based on the fake loan he made to Bezier, but he not only wanted that he wanted extra on top of it equivalent to he interest it would generate if that money had been in a savings account.
I think the figure he came up with was $230K (but I may be mistaken)!
If we even put aside the lie that Gene ever had 200k (he didn't, he has only ever been in debt) what kind of sleazebag asks a donor for interest when they are begging for money?
If anyone has the screenshots or links to the conversation I would love to see it again - it is a really good illustration of his character.
It is hard to believe even Gene as the king of entitlement would behave like this but he did.
Gene generated a magic figure of $200k based on the fake loan he made to Bezier, but he not only wanted that he wanted extra on top of it equivalent to he interest it would generate if that money had been in a savings account.
I think the figure he came up with was $230K (but I may be mistaken)!
If we even put aside the lie that Gene ever had 200k (he didn't, he has only ever been in debt) what kind of sleazebag asks a donor for interest when they are begging for money?
If anyone has the screenshots or links to the conversation I would love to see it again - it is a really good illustration of his character.
It is hard to believe even Gene as the king of entitlement would behave like this but he did.
GhostofBiedny
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What career? He is just a guy who appear on podcasts and listens to and reads about the paranormal. He doesn't actually do any formal research. I think his real job is as an illustrator.
If there is anything to ruin, he is ruining it himself by associating with Gene. I don't understand how people don't get this. If you associate with conmen it's hardly going to help your reputation and in my eyes (maybe I'm just weird) you lose your credibility.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
his rather sparse articles are pretty well written though
GhostofBiedny
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Well that obviously excuses everything then.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
look i ain't going to thrown him in the trash just due to his association with this notorious character
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