Duke University Removes Confederate Statue

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial

Sheltie

Fratty and out of touch.
I don't like to get political but I live in Virginia where the only thing they talk about in the news these days is Charlottesville and confederate statues. Terry McAuliffe, Virginia's governor, makes no secret about his ambition for higher office. Virginia has a constitutional rule that prohibits governors from running for consecutive terms so he will be out of office in January of 2018. Because Virginia Senator Tim Kaine lost his bid for Vice President, his options are somewhat limited.

I've heard from many people who claim McAuliffe ordered state police to stand down until the violence was out of hand. Allowing white hate groups and left wing militants to gather in public in a wild political orgy of protest was simply asking for violence IMHO. I personally blame McAuliffe and the Mayor of Charlottesville for not acting sooner to stop the chaos.

Just my two cents. If you disagree I respect your right to say so.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I don't like to get political but I live in Virginia where the only thing they talk about in the news these days is Charlottesville and confederate statues. Terry McAuliffe, Virginia's governor, makes no secret about his ambition for higher office. Virginia has a constitutional rule that prohibits governors from running for consecutive terms so he will be out of office in January of 2018. Because Virginia Senator Tim Kaine lost his bid for Vice President, his options are somewhat limited.

I've heard from many people who claim McAuliffe ordered state police to stand down until the violence was out of hand. Allowing white hate groups and left wing militants to gather in public in a wild political orgy of protest was simply asking for violence IMHO. I personally blame McAuliffe and the Mayor of Charlottesville for not acting sooner to stop the chaos.

Just my two cents. If you disagree I respect your right to say so.

I do not really follow Virginia politics.....but the "stand down" order is a common conspiracy among those claiming to be protecting their heritage.

Personally I blame the clowns from both sides for relying on violence first, then I'd blame trump for not getting involved and only babbling about it on twitter and then the Virginia politicians.

I'm all for honoring the bravery and sacrifice of both sides in the civil war.....but since I'm against slavery I do not support the honoring of the confederate government with was based on and that fought for slavery.
 

nivek

As Above So Below
There is already a movement underway at The University of Virginia to remove, not only Thomas Jefferson statues, but all references to him because he was a slave owner.

Ridiculous, it's getting out of hand...
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
The radical, liberal left will not stop with statues.
They want America transformed along with the Constitution rewritten to suit their ideology.
 

Captain Tinkle

Honorable
Yeah it's getting ridiculous, I posted about the column here:

Now they want to tear down Nelson's Column!

Should have heard the lady who wrote the article on BBC Radio Norfolk. Like she was on some sort of crusade not only to discredit Nelson as a historical figure but to insult Norfolk (where Nelson was from) as well.

While Nelson was not all good there is no reason why there should be any discussion in tearing down any form of monument to him. He was an important figure in British history and therefore should be honoured as such.
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
It is the true conservatives that is trying to preserve our Freedoms and constitutional rights. Anybody else is NO conservative despite what they may claim to be.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
It is the true conservatives that is trying to preserve our Freedoms and constitutional rights. Anybody else is NO conservative despite what they may claim to be.

Its a bit confusing.....I remember some "conservative" saying that the fascists are the liberal left.....then she got mad at me when I asked her if she was a communist.....lol
 

Gambeir

Celestial
Well this kind of thing doesn't just happen. It's not like people wake up and say to themselves; Well today I'm gonna go and deface a public monument and then protest that another one exists. These events are organized and paid for, and the media whom have killed/murdered more Americans than any other single institution are front and center.

So many people are so unethical in their own conduct, as if their bit parts in acts of destruction aren't really important, but they are because without them playing their bit parts these evils cannot take place.

"To be ethical is to understand the meaning of the disaster you are a part of."

In destruction there is creation, and it's the part which follows the destruction which now concerns me, because since this is obviously all planned what will follow?
 

Toroid

Founding Member
I was listening to the Jeff Rense show today and he said "We're witnessing a forced suicide of a culture/nation." He mentioned they're planning to remove Jefferson's & Washington's images from our currency (Jefferson is on the 2 dollar bill & Washington is on the 1 dollar bill). They're considering renaming all schools named Jefferson or Washington.
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Gambeir

Celestial
I was listening to the Jeff Rense show today and he said "We're witnessing a forced suicide of a culture/nation." He mentioned they're planning to remove Jefferson's & Washington's images from our currency (Jefferson is on the 2 dollar bill & Washington is on the 1 dollar bill). They're considering renaming all schools named Jefferson or Washington.
RenseRadio Network

The latest...Oregon courthouse removes law enforcement memorial flag deemed offensive
Oregon courthouse removes law enforcement memorial flag deemed offensive
 

dr wu

Noble
I found out that even though I'm a republican and on the conservative side I can't be because I'm not a communist.
I'm not sure what you mean by that...can you clarify?

When I hear some people say things regarding 'true conservative' aspects , I 'hear' right wing bigotry....and even racism pretending to not be. (disclaimer....not referring to any members here...)
It seems like they act like they are Christians but secretly they have plenty of racist ideas in private. I see this in family and friends who claim to be Republicans and for Trump. When you press them into an argument their true bigotry comes out in the heat of the discussion. One hears..."I'm all for people of color etc, but I don't want them living on my block or dating my daughter". Just an observation.....and I'm sure many 'conservatives' don't embrace those values.
 

Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I was told that the "ANTIFA" crowd were left wing fascists.....so that means the communists are now right wing. But then that was coming from people who had to be told General Lee fought for the confederacy and when I said the southern states seceded and fired on Fort Sumter I was told to check my facts. They sound confused so I'm not sure I can explain it any better than I have.
 

dr wu

Noble
I was told that the "ANTIFA" crowd were left wing fascists.....so that means the communists are now right wing. But then that was coming from people who had to be told General Lee fought for the confederacy and when I said the southern states seceded and fired on Fort Sumter I was told to check my facts. They sound confused so I'm not sure I can explain it any better than I have.
I think I get what you are saying. Left wing and fascism seems like a contradiction to me but then people have been mashing up all kinds of terms lately.
One can get so far to the left they come around to the right and end up fascists and or right wing communists. ;)
Maybe we all need to start using a Venn Diagram... ;)

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Castle-Yankee54

Celestial
I think I get what you are saying. Left wing and fascism seems like a contradiction to me but then people have been mashing up all kinds of terms lately.
One can get so far to the left they come around to the right and end up fascists and or right wing communists. ;)
Maybe we all need to start using a Venn Diagram... ;)

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Most are following the white circle....or at least the most vocal. I know its had me confused lately.

At least I know people won't be complaining to take down the Anthropoid Memorial without shooting themselves in the foot.....lol
 

SOUL-DRIFTER

Life Long Researcher
By all means, please enlighten us all on what a 'true conservative' really is.

:)
Conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and the preservation of our constitution.
Something more and more radicals want to see destroyed.
What about you Mr WU, would you love to see it rewritten to suit a bunch of radicals?

I do not want to see this country go down the drain as Venezuela has.
We are heading in that general direction.
 
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