Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

[Beyond The Star Gate]

i never understood why this guy hates sean david morton so much
i dint even know who SDM was before i found his website

Sean is a con man and has bilked people out of millions of dollars. Why is that so hard to understand? Sean could give Corey Goode and David Wilcock lessons in how to spin a wild tale and benefit financially from it.

 

[Beyond The Star Gate]

I am bowing out of further participation on Alien Expanse. Not that there is one minutia of a problem with nivek or any other poster here. You have treated me better than I deserve.

Since I have been here, no reflection on forum security, or nivek, but my emails are being hacked. God, I sound like Gene Steinberg!!
When I was outed as a gay poster, ok, I could deal with that. NO!! That was to be MY choice. Now it is not. This suffering has nothing to do with AE of which I am most grateful to take me in.

It was and still is difficult for me to admit my homosexuality...then have to lay my heart and soul regarding my alien abductions and have most of humanity treat me like a ghoul. Not here.

Thank you all for a really real experience

Signing off now, I'll no longer post as "eveshi" on the internet - Mind-energy.net

Brian of PsienceQuest here I did my best
Pssst has been banned
formerly known as eveshi on Skeptiko
Still a Hi! I'm Brian

Someone help me to understand. Is Brian saying that to "get" him, people HERE outed him as gay? And is being gay here a problem for the forum members? I realize we may all come from different areas, some still incredibly narrow minded. But is it really acceptable here to out someone as gay as a way to harm that person? Isn't that really nasty? For the record, I am gay and proud of it. So if I do not belong here due to this prejudice, please let me know asap. Thanks.

 

[nivek]

Someone help me to understand. Is Brian saying that to "get" him, people HERE outed him as gay? And is being gay here a problem for the forum members? I realize we may all come from different areas, some still incredibly narrow minded. But is it really acceptable here to out someone as gay as a way to harm that person? Isn't that really nasty? For the record, I am gay and proud of it. So it I do not belong due to this, please let me know asap. Thanks.

As far as I know nothing like that has happened here in that regard at all, I do not think and I did not take it that way that somebody outed him here on this board...There are no discriminations like that here and never will be...My most trusted friend is gay, just saying...

 

[Beyond The Star Gate]

As far as I know nothing like that has happened here in that regard at all, I do not think and I did not take it that way that somebody outed him here on this board...There are no discriminations like that here and never will be...My most trusted friend is gay, just saying...

Is he single? Just kidding. LOL

 

[Toroid]

Hi, I am brand new here - my first post. I am also a refugee from The Paracast. I dared to confront Goggs MacKay (Paracast Moderator and co-host of the Paracast) in a private message, seeking to find out how he could in good conscience support Gene with all the obvious evidence of Gene having made a "life style" out of begging. Goggs responded to say that he is able to separate the"Private Begging Gene" from the "Official Paracast Gene", thereby allowing Goggs to continue to actively support the official Paracast Gene. To me this is like saying "I support my peer at work, even though he beats his wife because I separate the wife beater from the guy who sits next to me" or "I know our Great Leader has death camps out in the desert but he makes the trains run on time" or "As long as Fred does not rape the women in the office, I am not concerned about what he does on his own time". I sort of read Goggs the riot act (a charming old expression I like even though I've never researched its origins). For one thing, the "Private Begging Gene" and the "Official Paracast Gene" merge when he uses the membership lists of the Paracast to solicit for funds.

Result? I was banned. My conversation with Goggs was private but my account was deleted, even though I had paid in advance to be a Paracast Plus member through October 2018. So Gene is in breach of contract by not allowing me access to his Paracast Plus MP3 files. But I have better things to do than to launch a legal challenge against him. Also, in listening to recent shows, I really have lost much interest. Goggs always states the bloody obvious (certainly not a great mind like David Biedny), and the After the Paracast shows are predominantly Gene and a co-host or guest waxing nostalgic about the good old days, pop cultural references (Gene has to watch a hell of a lot of TV including cable or satellite dish stations), and just shooting the breeze for 30 minutes. I'd rather listen to my dog snore!

I do have a Gene story. I moved to Phoenix in 2004 from the San Francisco Bay area. I was a financial refugee and coul not afford to retire in the locale where I had spent most of my life. Phoenix has a nice quality of life at a low cost. Back around 2006 or 2007, I became enthusiastic about The Paracast (much more gullible back then, but David Biedny was great - Gene just announced the commercial breaks). Realizing that Gene also lived in the Phoenix area, I had the silly idea of giving him a gift of a DVD I had home made of clips from many serious and silly UFO films. So I contacted Gene in email to offer to bring it to him. Almost instantly, I received a response from Gene. Ignoring my gift suggestion, he told me that he was in the midst of a terrible EMERGENCY!! His wife has screwed up their bank account so they had no access to their funds. This was a Friday and he had no money for the weekend AND the house had no groceries. He was in a dire situation, so could I loan him a few hundred dollars to tide them over. Well, I was shocked and too cynical (I come from a large urban area, not Podunk where everyone leaves their doors unlocked). I refused to help him, did some research and was even told by a Moderator that this was SOP for Gene even back then.

Disillusionment. I kept listening because the Paracast still attracted great guests at times. I would post on the forum but never found it very friendly at all. If I expressed an unpopular notion, my post was ridiculed or totally ignored. So I pretty much stopped participating in the forum.

Now I do not exist over there even though I am paid up through October 2018. I think Gene is getting reckless since you should not be banishing people who have prepaid for your product just because they don't like you personally or vice versa. My life and time are too important to make a big deal out of this legally, but someone with wealth and an ax to grind could make Gene's life very uncomfortable legally over such a petulant act. Gene better be careful about banning people with Paracast Plus. To emphasize a point, I did not criticize Gene on the forums since that would immediately get you banned or a shaming email from Gene. So Goggs must have squealed on our private conversation, prompting the ban. I really have zero respect for Goggs MacKay at this point. Would you really sell your soul or sense of ethics just to be an occasional c0-host of a rinky dink podcast and the great glory of being a moderator on the forum? Methinks he sells himself out for very little.

Welcome aboard.

 

[humanoidlord]

I am bowing out of further participation on Alien Expanse. Not that there is one minutia of a problem with nivek or any other poster here. You have treated me better than I deserve.

Since I have been here, no reflection on forum security, or nivek, but my emails are being hacked. God, I sound like Gene Steinberg!!
When I was outed as a gay poster, ok, I could deal with that. NO!! That was to be MY choice. Now it is not. This suffering has nothing to do with AE of which I am most grateful to take me in.

It was and still is difficult for me to admit my homosexuality...then have to lay my heart and soul regarding my alien abductions and have most of humanity treat me like a ghoul. Not here.

Thank you all for a really real experience

Signing off now, I'll no longer post as "eveshi" on the internet - Mind-energy.net

Brian of PsienceQuest here I did my best
Pssst has been banned
formerly known as eveshi on Skeptiko
Still a Hi! I'm Brian

good bye brian
we will miss your interesting abduction experiences

 

[humanoidlord]

Hello Brian, I am also sad to see you decide to leave, you are most welcome here if you decide to return...I do appreciate your insight and thoughts here, you will be missed...



Thanks for posting the Pssst link, I wanted to briefly say something about that because any emails or messages coming from that pssst@accountant.com are not from Thomas, I assume its the character in the link you posted or someone in cahoots with him but it is certainly not Thomas, no doubt about it at all...Someone is simply stirring in more drama by doing this, I recommend ignoring any of those emails and do not open any attachments that may be contained...

i agree nivek this is what i was talking about when i said that the internet brings the worst out of people

 

[humanoidlord]

Hi, I am brand new here - my first post. I am also a refugee from The Paracast. I dared to confront Goggs MacKay (Paracast Moderator and co-host of the Paracast) in a private message, seeking to find out how he could in good conscience support Gene with all the obvious evidence of Gene having made a "life style" out of begging. Goggs responded to say that he is able to separate the"Private Begging Gene" from the "Official Paracast Gene", thereby allowing Goggs to continue to actively support the official Paracast Gene. To me this is like saying "I support my peer at work, even though he beats his wife because I separate the wife beater from the guy who sits next to me" or "I know our Great Leader has death camps out in the desert but he makes the trains run on time" or "As long as Fred does not rape the women in the office, I am not concerned about what he does on his own time". I sort of read Goggs the riot act (a charming old expression I like even though I've never researched its origins). For one thing, the "Private Begging Gene" and the "Official Paracast Gene" merge when he uses the membership lists of the Paracast to solicit for funds.

Result? I was banned. My conversation with Goggs was private but my account was deleted, even though I had paid in advance to be a Paracast Plus member through October 2018. So Gene is in breach of contract by not allowing me access to his Paracast Plus MP3 files. But I have better things to do than to launch a legal challenge against him. Also, in listening to recent shows, I really have lost much interest. Goggs always states the bloody obvious (certainly not a great mind like David Biedny), and the After the Paracast shows are predominantly Gene and a co-host or guest waxing nostalgic about the good old days, pop cultural references (Gene has to watch a hell of a lot of TV including cable or satellite dish stations), and just shooting the breeze for 30 minutes. I'd rather listen to my dog snore!

I do have a Gene story. I moved to Phoenix in 2004 from the San Francisco Bay area. I was a financial refugee and coul not afford to retire in the locale where I had spent most of my life. Phoenix has a nice quality of life at a low cost. Back around 2006 or 2007, I became enthusiastic about The Paracast (much more gullible back then, but David Biedny was great - Gene just announced the commercial breaks). Realizing that Gene also lived in the Phoenix area, I had the silly idea of giving him a gift of a DVD I had home made of clips from many serious and silly UFO films. So I contacted Gene in email to offer to bring it to him. Almost instantly, I received a response from Gene. Ignoring my gift suggestion, he told me that he was in the midst of a terrible EMERGENCY!! His wife has screwed up their bank account so they had no access to their funds. This was a Friday and he had no money for the weekend AND the house had no groceries. He was in a dire situation, so could I loan him a few hundred dollars to tide them over. Well, I was shocked and too cynical (I come from a large urban area, not Podunk where everyone leaves their doors unlocked). I refused to help him, did some research and was even told by a Moderator that this was SOP for Gene even back then.

Disillusionment. I kept listening because the Paracast still attracted great guests at times. I would post on the forum but never found it very friendly at all. If I expressed an unpopular notion, my post was ridiculed or totally ignored. So I pretty much stopped participating in the forum.

Now I do not exist over there even though I am paid up through October 2018. I think Gene is getting reckless since you should not be banishing people who have prepaid for your product just because they don't like you personally or vice versa. My life and time are too important to make a big deal out of this legally, but someone with wealth and an ax to grind could make Gene's life very uncomfortable legally over such a petulant act. Gene better be careful about banning people with Paracast Plus. To emphasize a point, I did not criticize Gene on the forums since that would immediately get you banned or a shaming email from Gene. So Goggs must have squealed on our private conversation, prompting the ban. I really have zero respect for Goggs MacKay at this point. Would you really sell your soul or sense of ethics just to be an occasional c0-host of a rinky dink podcast and the great glory of being a moderator on the forum? Methinks he sells himself out for very little.

welcome!

 

[humanoidlord]

Sean is a con man and has bilked people out of millions of dollars. Why is that so hard to understand? Sean could give Corey Goode and David Wilcock lessons in how to spin a wild tale and benefit financially from it.

i know, its just that he is a dust smote in a desert of disinfo, even some of his tales (billy meier for example) are bigger motes of dust than him

 

[Beyond The Star Gate]

i know, its just that he is a dust smote in a desert of disinfo, even some of his tales (billy meier for example) are bigger motes of dust than him

True. I would suggest that it became really personal. I think Sean and the UFO Watchdog had a lot of personal communication and it just became a vendetta. Sometimes someone just triggers us for some reason. I have a really hard time tolerating David Wilcock. I try listening to his stuff and it just drive me up the wall. I think the guy is dead dog ugly (but always boasts about being god's gift to women everywhere) and has a sort of feminine voice that drives me crazy. Then he dresses and has stringy long hair like it is 1975. Silly, I know. But some folks just set us off.

 

[nivek]

I have a really hard time tolerating David Wilcock.

As do I, listening to him takes effort lol...

He might make a good magician or illusionist?...

 

[humanoidlord]

True. I would suggest that it became really personal. I think Sean and the UFO Watchdog had a lot of personal communication and it just became a vendetta. Sometimes someone just triggers us for some reason. I have a really hard time tolerating David Wilcock. I try listening to his stuff and it just drive me up the wall. I think the guy is dead dog ugly (but always boasts about being god's gift to women everywhere) and has a sort of feminine voice that drives me crazy. Then he dresses and has stringy long hair like it is 1975. Silly, I know. But some folks just set us off.

he triggers me too, there is something about him that is very obnoxious
thats what i believe happened too, it got personal and he started attacking him

 

[Ron67]

Hi, I am brand new here - my first post. I am also a refugee from The Paracast. I dared to confront Goggs MacKay (Paracast Moderator and co-host of the Paracast) in a private message, seeking to find out how he could in good conscience support Gene with all the obvious evidence of Gene having made a "life style" out of begging. Goggs responded to say that he is able to separate the"Private Begging Gene" from the "Official Paracast Gene", thereby allowing Goggs to continue to actively support the official Paracast Gene. To me this is like saying "I support my peer at work, even though he beats his wife because I separate the wife beater from the guy who sits next to me" or "I know our Great Leader has death camps out in the desert but he makes the trains run on time" or "As long as Fred does not rape the women in the office, I am not concerned about what he does on his own time". I sort of read Goggs the riot act (a charming old expression I like even though I've never researched its origins). For one thing, the "Private Begging Gene" and the "Official Paracast Gene" merge when he uses the membership lists of the Paracast to solicit for funds.

Result? I was banned. My conversation with Goggs was private but my account was deleted, even though I had paid in advance to be a Paracast Plus member through October 2018. So Gene is in breach of contract by not allowing me access to his Paracast Plus MP3 files. But I have better things to do than to launch a legal challenge against him. Also, in listening to recent shows, I really have lost much interest. Goggs always states the bloody obvious (certainly not a great mind like David Biedny), and the After the Paracast shows are predominantly Gene and a co-host or guest waxing nostalgic about the good old days, pop cultural references (Gene has to watch a hell of a lot of TV including cable or satellite dish stations), and just shooting the breeze for 30 minutes. I'd rather listen to my dog snore!

I do have a Gene story. I moved to Phoenix in 2004 from the San Francisco Bay area. I was a financial refugee and coul not afford to retire in the locale where I had spent most of my life. Phoenix has a nice quality of life at a low cost. Back around 2006 or 2007, I became enthusiastic about The Paracast (much more gullible back then, but David Biedny was great - Gene just announced the commercial breaks). Realizing that Gene also lived in the Phoenix area, I had the silly idea of giving him a gift of a DVD I had home made of clips from many serious and silly UFO films. So I contacted Gene in email to offer to bring it to him. Almost instantly, I received a response from Gene. Ignoring my gift suggestion, he told me that he was in the midst of a terrible EMERGENCY!! His wife has screwed up their bank account so they had no access to their funds. This was a Friday and he had no money for the weekend AND the house had no groceries. He was in a dire situation, so could I loan him a few hundred dollars to tide them over. Well, I was shocked and too cynical (I come from a large urban area, not Podunk where everyone leaves their doors unlocked). I refused to help him, did some research and was even told by a Moderator that this was SOP for Gene even back then.

Disillusionment. I kept listening because the Paracast still attracted great guests at times. I would post on the forum but never found it very friendly at all. If I expressed an unpopular notion, my post was ridiculed or totally ignored. So I pretty much stopped participating in the forum.

Now I do not exist over there even though I am paid up through October 2018. I think Gene is getting reckless since you should not be banishing people who have prepaid for your product just because they don't like you personally or vice versa. My life and time are too important to make a big deal out of this legally, but someone with wealth and an ax to grind could make Gene's life very uncomfortable legally over such a petulant act. Gene better be careful about banning people with Paracast Plus. To emphasize a point, I did not criticize Gene on the forums since that would immediately get you banned or a shaming email from Gene. So Goggs must have squealed on our private conversation, prompting the ban. I really have zero respect for Goggs MacKay at this point. Would you really sell your soul or sense of ethics just to be an occasional c0-host of a rinky dink podcast and the great glory of being a moderator on the forum? Methinks he sells himself out for very little.

Welcome,good to see another disgruntled paracaster coming over from the dark side.

 

[The shadow]

he triggers me too, there is something about him that is very obnoxious
thats what i believe happened too, it got personal and he started attacking him

Welcome friend. I'm done with gene.
I'm sorry.. I should of could have done more.. I failed.
I will try to do better

 

[Beyond The Star Gate]

Welcome friend. I'm done with gene.
I'm sorry.. I should of could have done more.. I failed.
I will try to do better

You could give us your bank account information online for a start. LOL

Seriously, can you give us a glimpse of the moderator "mentality" there in terms of how Gene's fanatical supporters manage to disregard tons of evidence of Gene's malfeasance? I am trying to understand how Goggs MacKay can say he keeps Gene's begging separate from Gene's Paracast persona when Gene uses the Paracast to do his begging. If you are going to sell out your ethical standards, do it for something like millions of dollars, not a rinky dink Podcast occasional co-host appearance. Can you shine any light on Goggs profile (what makes this guy tick?) without risk of defamation?

 

[Beyond The Star Gate]

As do I, listening to him takes effort lol...

He might make a good magician or illusionist?...

I think he would make a great Eunuch in an Amazonian Warrior Women's barracks. A few tough women could really wipe that arrogance off his aura fast. LOL

 

[nivek]

I think he would make a great Eunuch in an Amazonian Warrior Women's barracks. A few tough women could really wipe that arrogance off his aura fast. LOL

Indubitably, he would be a changed man...lol

 

[The shadow]

Honest answer.
I don't know goggs well.
For what it is worth. I would delete Genes begging emails. I ignored it untill
The day I caught him in a bald face lie
You see in august 2017 i was robbed.
My wallet car phone stolen.
Took me 20 min to get to a phone.
By then the thieves had used my credit card and debit card. There were pin rejections. One call to the bank.
My cards cancelled.
The charges disputed.
By early next morning the money was credited.
My credit card took 3 days to fix.
After 5 days I was back in bussness..
Took 30 days for the garbage to go off my credit report.
Soo..if it took 1 day to fix my debit card.
3 days to fix my credit card.
And all money lost restored right away.
Why did it take 10 to 20 bussness days to restore money to Gene?
The answer is simple Gene was lying.
There was no hack.

 

[The shadow]

Indubitably, he would be a changed man...lol

My wife would put Gene in line! Whip whip.

 

[August]

Hi and welcome to AE , Beyond The Star Gate.