Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums

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Greetings folks - an interesting forum you have here. I'm sure we'll enjoy discussing a variety of interesting topics.

But first I should clear up some confusion: a truly despicable troll (the infamous "Waller Joel" troll) who showed up to make trouble at The Paracast forums a couple of months ago (and promptly got banned), has been using my name to make inflammatory and hateful posts online in a variety of venues, including facebook in recent days.

For example, thanks to this post I was able to notify the moderator that the posts in this linked thread were not made by me:

Christopher O'Brien speaks...and so do many Paracast posters, many of which didn't have the balls to complain on the forum. Don't forget the Comments including "our" Bob Watson and their Thomas R Morrison

End Of Days – Chris O’Brien |The Paracast|Stalking The Herd|UFOS|Conspira-Seacruise|EOD 20

"Chris says he has four other jobs to pay his bills…Which leads us to discussion about his cohost, Gene Steinberg. Their show, The Paracast, is on 35-40 AM/FM talk radio stations around the country, they have a huge audience, yet Gene is constantly begging for money. Chris says Gene “is doing a hell of a lot better than I am.” Chris tells us he never gets paid, that Gene “keeps shaming me to keep me there.” He says Gene is stuck in the 50s, that it is he who gets all the great guests. But he’s tired of reading 2-3 books a week and having to make all the phone calls."

So those posts, and the recent facebook messages sent to UFO Watchdog and others (linked below) were also not sent by me. I've notified facebook of this online identity theft; hopefully they'll close the account.

But the stuff mentioned below was posted by "the real me," so to speak:

agree, his posts on daniel fry where some of the high points of paracast
Thank you humanoidlord - honestly I didn't realize that anybody noticed that thread, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. I still consider the scientific writings (and successful predictions) of Daniel Fry to be a genuine and fascinating enigma. People underestimate the power of asking the right, simple questions. And if nothing else, Fry's books raise a number of crucial questions that drive at the heart of some of the most profound outstanding questions in physics today.

Thomas R Morrison tearing the mickey out of Gene Steinberg and Goggs Mackay

May 27, 2018 — Dr. Jack Hunter with Goggs Mackay

Note how he zeroes in on the fact that the standard for paranormal gold is all alone inside the heads of Steinberg and his clown-prince Mackay. He also notes the Paracast theme of belittling those who have differing views and doing so in a way they have no retort.

Which is what scum does.

To wit: "So The Paracast alienates >95% of the millions of potential audience members by routinely deriding this clearly superior, consummately logical explanation. That's a steep price to pay for a rigid ideological bias that flies in the face of fact and reason."

"The Paracast has become an echo chamber for the extremely fringe “co-creation hypothesis” crowd within the ufology community. Everyone on this episode shared the same perspective, and hearing a group of people agreeing with each other isn’t interesting. And hearing Gene lavish praise upon anyone and everyone who blindly adheres to the co-creation hypothesis/mythology is starting to give me indigestion. Likewise, hearing everyone on this show agree that ETH proponents are shallow, mouth-breathing religious fanatics, is becoming genuinely intolerable."

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Steinberg bleats: "We have always presented a variety of views about UFOs"

Gene, the bias against the ETH on this show is so thick that you could cut it with a knife.
I am quite frustrated about the extreme bias at The Paracast against the ETH, and in favor of the alleged "co-creation hypothesis." But I'm going to listen to today's episode with Greg Bishop, which gets into this subject in more detail, before I comment about it again.

I agree also that the unwillingness to engage in an earnest and fair debate about the comparative credibility between the ETH and the "co-creation hypothesis" is in itself a huge problem. I believe in the power of an earnest, open public debate. "Let the best meme win," I say. But that can't happen when one side is unwilling to engage. We had one show where we engaged in a debate on the subject, but the unrelenting bias against the ETH has continued ever since.

And just yesterday I was thinking about the fact that literally every other paranormal/ufo venue has devoted serious discussion (and, frequently, interviews with the key people) regarding the enormously significant AATIP story that broke late last year, and which is on-going. This is the biggest story in ufology in decades, perhaps even in the last half century. And yet on the rare occasions that it's even mentioned on The Paracast, it's mentioned in a disparaging light. Why on Earth would a ufo podcast shun a vibrant open discussion about this historic program? I'll tell you why: because it favors the ETH over "the co-creation hypothesis." With zero evidence, the consensus on the show, and the forums, is that it's all a big hoax or rouse of some kind (a conclusion which I find to be absurd, on its face). It's all very disappointing to see the ufo community engaged in a completely self-defeating downward spiral, when we all finally have real cause for optimism, and the promise of additional revelations in the near future.
 
Greetings, People of Earth! Thomas, it's good to see you here.

As others have noted, the Paracast Meltdown is like a train wreck. Hard to keep from watching no matter how nasty or surreal it gets. I left that dump some time last year when I could no longer ignore the hypocrisy. That loony "moderator" Mike and his cowardly behavior was the last straw. Chris O'Brien, the main reason I stayed around there after DB got disgusted and left, was acting weird and not being any fun at all. I told Gene I had had enough of the panhandling and wanted to close my account. He wouldn't do that! What kind of brain dead... well, anyway I never missed it one bit. I did manage to get my account closed, by being banned for "threatening" Gene. My threat was to go elsewhere and tell the truth about Mike's abysmal "moderating". What a weenie.

Just a while ago, I discovered I am still getting the begging emails, even after having been banned. My email site has been automatically putting them in the trash, where they have been going for years. That putz is still spamming me!

Anyway, this looks like a nice place. I'm looking forward to some lively discussion on more interesting topics. I can say that Thomas R. Morrison is a most valuable contributor and a thoughtful person. I'm sure I know a few more of y'all. Did I see Dr. Wu here somewhere? Hey, Doc. How ya doin'?
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Greetings folks - an interesting forum you have here. I'm sure we'll enjoy discussing a variety of interesting topics.

But first I should clear up some confusion: a truly despicable troll (the infamous "Waller Joel" troll) who showed up to make trouble at The Paracast forums a couple of months ago (and promptly got banned), has been using my name to make inflammatory and hateful posts online in a variety of venues, including facebook in recent days.

For example, thanks to this post I was able to notify the moderator that the posts in this linked thread were not made by me:



So those posts, and the recent facebook messages sent to UFO Watchdog and others (linked below) were also not sent by me. I've notified facebook of this online identity theft; hopefully they'll close the account.


But the stuff mentioned below was posted by "the real me," so to speak:


Thank you humanoidlord - honestly I didn't realize that anybody noticed that thread, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. I still consider the scientific writings (and successful predictions) of Daniel Fry to be a genuine and fascinating enigma. People underestimate the power of asking the right, simple questions. And if nothing else, Fry's books raise a number of crucial questions that drive at the heart of some of the most profound outstanding questions in physics today.


I am quite frustrated about the extreme bias at The Paracast against the ETH, and in favor of the alleged "co-creation hypothesis." But I'm going to listen to today's episode with Greg Bishop, which gets into this subject in more detail, before I comment about it again.

I agree also that the unwillingness to engage in an earnest and fair debate about the comparative credibility between the ETH and the "co-creation hypothesis" is in itself a huge problem. I believe in the power of an earnest, open public debate. "Let the best meme win," I say. But that can't happen when one side is unwilling to engage. We had one show where we engaged in a debate on the subject, but the unrelenting bias against the ETH has continued ever since.

And just yesterday I was thinking about the fact that literally every other paranormal/ufo venue has devoted serious discussion (and, frequently, interviews with the key people) regarding the enormously significant AATIP story that broke late last year, and which is on-going. This is the biggest story in ufology in decades, perhaps even in the last half century. And yet on the rare occasions that it's even mentioned on The Paracast, it's mentioned in a disparaging light. Why on Earth would a ufo podcast shun a vibrant open discussion about this historic program? I'll tell you why: because it favors the ETH over "the co-creation hypothesis." With zero evidence, the consensus on the show, and the forums, is that it's all a big hoax or rouse of some kind (a conclusion which I find to be absurd, on its face). It's all very disappointing to see the ufo community engaged in a completely self-defeating downward spiral, when we all finally have real cause for optimism, and the promise of additional revelations in the near future.

Hello Thomas and welcome to AE...It's good to see you here...q37
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Greetings, People of Earth! Thomas, it's good to see you here.

As others have noted, the Paracast Meltdown is like a train wreck. Hard to keep from watching no matter how nasty or surreal it gets. I left that dump some time last year when I could no longer ignore the hypocrisy. That loony "moderator" Mike and his cowardly behavior was the last straw. Chris O'Brien, the main reason I stayed around there after DB got disgusted and left, was acting weird and not being any fun at all. I told Gene I had had enough of the panhandling and wanted to close my account. He wouldn't do that! What kind of brain dead... well, anyway I never missed it one bit. I did manage to get my account closed, by being banned for "threatening" Gene. My threat was to go elsewhere and tell the truth about Mike's abysmal "moderating". What a weenie.

Just a while ago, I discovered I am still getting the begging emails, even after having been banned. My email site has been automatically putting them in the trash, where they have been going for years. That putz is still spamming me!

Anyway, this looks like a nice place. I'm looking forward to some lively discussion on more interesting topics. I can say that Thomas R. Morrison is a most valuable contributor and a thoughtful person. I'm sure I know a few more of y'all. Did I see Dr. Wu here somewhere? Hey, Doc. How ya doin'?

Welcome to AE, it's great to see you here!...q37
 

Ron67

Ignorance isn’t bliss!
Greetings, People of Earth! Thomas, it's good to see you here.

As others have noted, the Paracast Meltdown is like a train wreck. Hard to keep from watching no matter how nasty or surreal it gets. I left that dump some time last year when I could no longer ignore the hypocrisy. That loony "moderator" Mike and his cowardly behavior was the last straw. Chris O'Brien, the main reason I stayed around there after DB got disgusted and left, was acting weird and not being any fun at all. I told Gene I had had enough of the panhandling and wanted to close my account. He wouldn't do that! What kind of brain dead... well, anyway I never missed it one bit. I did manage to get my account closed, by being banned for "threatening" Gene. My threat was to go elsewhere and tell the truth about Mike's abysmal "moderating". What a weenie.

Just a while ago, I discovered I am still getting the begging emails, even after having been banned. My email site has been automatically putting them in the trash, where they have been going for years. That putz is still spamming me!

Anyway, this looks like a nice place. I'm looking forward to some lively discussion on more interesting topics. I can say that Thomas R. Morrison is a most valuable contributor and a thoughtful person. I'm sure I know a few more of y'all. Did I see Dr. Wu here somewhere? Hey, Doc. How ya doin'?
Good to see another ex paracaster on board.Totally agree regarding Thomas and the Paracast in general.I had some good chats over the years with Mike,one on one he was good company.He did go over the top on Alan Valiant and lost the plot completely with Walter Bosley.Don't know what he's up to now but I hope he's rediscovered his old pre Moderator self.
I know from your time on the paracast that you'll be an asset to this site.
 

The shadow

The shadow knows!
Welcome to this awesome place! Enjoy your stay! Tea is served at 11!
 

nivek

As Above So Below
The Steinberg antithesis group?

That's a good suggestion, I leave it to you all if the thread needs a different title or not, I don't think its for me to decide...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
I am quite frustrated about the extreme bias at The Paracast against the ETH, and in favor of the alleged "co-creation hypothesis." But I'm going to listen to today's episode with Greg Bishop, which gets into this subject in more detail, before I comment about it again.

I agree also that the unwillingness to engage in an earnest and fair debate about the comparative credibility between the ETH and the "co-creation hypothesis" is in itself a huge problem. I believe in the power of an earnest, open public debate. "Let the best meme win," I say. But that can't happen when one side is unwilling to engage. We had one show where we engaged in a debate on the subject, but the unrelenting bias against the ETH has continued ever since.

And just yesterday I was thinking about the fact that literally every other paranormal/ufo venue has devoted serious discussion (and, frequently, interviews with the key people) regarding the enormously significant AATIP story that broke late last year, and which is on-going. This is the biggest story in ufology in decades, perhaps even in the last half century. And yet on the rare occasions that it's even mentioned on The Paracast, it's mentioned in a disparaging light. Why on Earth would a ufo podcast shun a vibrant open discussion about this historic program? I'll tell you why: because it favors the ETH over "the co-creation hypothesis." With zero evidence, the consensus on the show, and the forums, is that it's all a big hoax or rouse of some kind (a conclusion which I find to be absurd, on its face). It's all very disappointing to see the ufo community engaged in a completely self-defeating downward spiral, when we all finally have real cause for optimism, and the promise of additional revelations in the near future.

It's not just Paracast but also on UM forum, barely a discussion on the subject, one thread I could find started back in January of this year...Its not surprising for that forum though, its a highly skeptical place, not very member friendly in my opinion, at least that's the way it was in the past there, I don't know about now...Years ago I posted on UM in a thread on the subject of spirituality and posted a link to a long paper I wrote and they banned me within the hour...This was about 7 years ago, when I emailed them inquiring about that they told me the content I posted did not fall within their guidelines...I was simply posting my opinions and my own writings...
 

nivek

As Above So Below
Also from Reddit posted 2 months ago:

The Paracast: The Gold Standard in Internet Fraud Schemes

Gene Steinberg, who owns and operates the podcast and website, is and has been actively engaging in defrauding people by claiming he is in a financial hardship, and asking that people send him cash or wire him money to help him out. Unfortunately for Gene, this is not the first, nor I'm sure the last time he will attempt this ruse. It should also be noted that "The Paracast, LLC" is not a legally registered LLC, Corporation, or business in Arizona, or any of the other 49 states. He has also created a separate page on his other site, titled "https://www.technightowl.com/emergency/", which is also soliciting PayPal transfers.... "Making the Impossible, Inc." is also a fictitious corporation NOT registered with the Arizona Corporation Commission, nor registered in any other state...

He is also actively revoking memberships, surreptitiously removing user posts, and banning people from the forum; simply for bringing this to the attention of the user base, myself included (I was about 1.5 years into a 5-year "Paracast Plus+" membership plan).

I wanted to bring this to the attention of our community here, to prevent anybody from further falling victim to this scheme.

"...there are a lot of kooks and charlatans - be cautious..." - Ben Rich

BEWARE.
 
Greetings, People of Earth! Thomas, it's good to see you here.

As others have noted, the Paracast Meltdown is like a train wreck. Hard to keep from watching no matter how nasty or surreal it gets. I left that dump some time last year when I could no longer ignore the hypocrisy. That loony "moderator" Mike and his cowardly behavior was the last straw. Chris O'Brien, the main reason I stayed around there after DB got disgusted and left, was acting weird and not being any fun at all. I told Gene I had had enough of the panhandling and wanted to close my account. He wouldn't do that! What kind of brain dead... well, anyway I never missed it one bit. I did manage to get my account closed, by being banned for "threatening" Gene. My threat was to go elsewhere and tell the truth about Mike's abysmal "moderating". What a weenie.

Just a while ago, I discovered I am still getting the begging emails, even after having been banned. My email site has been automatically putting them in the trash, where they have been going for years. That putz is still spamming me!

Anyway, this looks like a nice place. I'm looking forward to some lively discussion on more interesting topics. I can say that Thomas R. Morrison is a most valuable contributor and a thoughtful person. I'm sure I know a few more of y'all. Did I see Dr. Wu here somewhere? Hey, Doc. How ya doin'?
I have only been here a couple days, a proud banned member of the Paracast forum. When I visit the Paracast forum now, I honestly do not see a train wreck. It seems like business as usual with lots of gullible naive new folks eagerly joining in with the same bloody obvious questions we all asked perhaps many years ago. I found it amusing the other day when I discovered that Gene is begging for someone to give him FREE assistance to set up a Paracast YOUTUBE channel. Come on, Gene. You are a technical wizard but cannot set up your YOUTUBE channel? Anyone can do this if they have the patience and time. It is not the proverbial rocket science. Little old ladies post videos of their grandkids, for god's sake! But Gene found some guy who is going to do all the work for him Free of charge. Never give a sucker an even break.
 
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Greetings folks - an interesting forum you have here. I'm sure we'll enjoy discussing a variety of interesting topics.

But first I should clear up some confusion: a truly despicable troll (the infamous "Waller Joel" troll) who showed up to make trouble at The Paracast forums a couple of months ago (and promptly got banned), has been using my name to make inflammatory and hateful posts online in a variety of venues, including facebook in recent days.

For example, thanks to this post I was able to notify the moderator that the posts in this linked thread were not made by me:



So those posts, and the recent facebook messages sent to UFO Watchdog and others (linked below) were also not sent by me. I've notified facebook of this online identity theft; hopefully they'll close the account.


But the stuff mentioned below was posted by "the real me," so to speak:


Thank you humanoidlord - honestly I didn't realize that anybody noticed that thread, but I'm glad you enjoyed it. I still consider the scientific writings (and successful predictions) of Daniel Fry to be a genuine and fascinating enigma. People underestimate the power of asking the right, simple questions. And if nothing else, Fry's books raise a number of crucial questions that drive at the heart of some of the most profound outstanding questions in physics today.


I am quite frustrated about the extreme bias at The Paracast against the ETH, and in favor of the alleged "co-creation hypothesis." But I'm going to listen to today's episode with Greg Bishop, which gets into this subject in more detail, before I comment about it again.

I agree also that the unwillingness to engage in an earnest and fair debate about the comparative credibility between the ETH and the "co-creation hypothesis" is in itself a huge problem. I believe in the power of an earnest, open public debate. "Let the best meme win," I say. But that can't happen when one side is unwilling to engage. We had one show where we engaged in a debate on the subject, but the unrelenting bias against the ETH has continued ever since.

And just yesterday I was thinking about the fact that literally every other paranormal/ufo venue has devoted serious discussion (and, frequently, interviews with the key people) regarding the enormously significant AATIP story that broke late last year, and which is on-going. This is the biggest story in ufology in decades, perhaps even in the last half century. And yet on the rare occasions that it's even mentioned on The Paracast, it's mentioned in a disparaging light. Why on Earth would a ufo podcast shun a vibrant open discussion about this historic program? I'll tell you why: because it favors the ETH over "the co-creation hypothesis." With zero evidence, the consensus on the show, and the forums, is that it's all a big hoax or rouse of some kind (a conclusion which I find to be absurd, on its face). It's all very disappointing to see the ufo community engaged in a completely self-defeating downward spiral, when we all finally have real cause for optimism, and the promise of additional revelations in the near future.
I am so glad you are here. I am a thought police refugee from the Paracast forum also. Regarding the ETH, must it really be "either or"? Perhaps we lump together phenomena that have disparate causes? I had abductions when I was just around 5 years old. This was back in the late 1950's before the image of a Grey existed anywhere. I was in a little town in the middle of nowhere. How could I conceivably create the classic Grey abduction scenario from my own mind? Oh, I suppose you could posit the idea that the Grey Abduction is some sort of Jungian archetype. We seem to use Jung's Archetype theory to explain away a lot of things that would otherwise require some sort of down-to-earth explanation. Therefore, I do believe these events were physical. For one thing, one of these entities screwed something into my ear, which then caused a perforated eardrum and the need for surgery when I was around 10. I have had ear issues like tinnitus ever since, and I am now 66 years old. But then it gets interesting. In 1995, while an abduction was beginning, my voice blurted out "I am in the Family of Jesus Christ!" The blue light that preceded a "visit" blinked out and I knew in my heart and soul that these abductions were DONE. For 23 years now, they have never reoccured. So how in the world would physical ETH entities be banished by mentioning an affiliation with a particular Earth religion's totem figure Jesus? Isn't that odd? By the way, I was not Christian at the time, so that makes it all even more bizarre.

I honestly do not think this entire bizarre situation is simply creatures from the Black Lagoon, another planet or dimension UNLESS those creatures have amazing powers over time and space. What if the entire Grey Abduction scenario is just a screen memory for something our brains cannot handle any more than a dog could learn algebra.

Note: This probably does not belong in this thread but I wanted to illustrate that your post is appreciated.
 
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Gene's constant adventures remind me of a character in classic cinema. In early film making, there was a movie serial called THE PERILS OF PAULINE. Perhaps Gene is getting some of his scripts from this series about the constant threats upon Pauline's life. Pauline is usually associated with the classic scene of a damsel in distress who is tied to a railroad tracks and must be rescued before the train runs her over. If allowed, here is a url to the Wikipedia article about the Perils of Pauline which in the 21st century remake is now known as the Perils of Gene. LOL

The Perils of Pauline (1914 serial) - Wikipedia
 
I am just self-indulging myself. I posted the following item on the Paracast Forum under the Greg Bishop thread. Greg was the guest last Sunday. I know Gene will destroy the post, but perhaps a few people will see it first.

"Gene, I paid for Paracast Plus through October 2018. Yet suddenly my account seems to have been deleted. Perhaps I said something that annoyed you. Nonetheless, you must realize that you are offering a service which I prepaid for through October 2018. You are therefore breaking the terms of a contractual agreement. This is illegal. If you do not restore my account, I will be forced to take legal action to force you to do so. This is a matter of principle. When people pay you money unfront for a service, you do not have the right to terminate that service just because someone says something you do not like. I have knowledge of others who paid for a 5 year Paracast Plus service. Then they did something you did not like and you terminated the account. Again, that is illegal. If someone pays for a service, the provider is bound to provide that service for the prepaid period even if that particular customer turns out to be rude or obnoxious. As a former AT&T Help Line agent, I had to deal with such customers all the time. Simply banning them was NOT an allowed response."
 
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