Black Angus
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The shadow knows.........
Gene Steinberg's Financial Shenanigans @ Paracast forums
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I'm still astonished by the valid scientific predictions that I've found in Daniel Fry's books. He explicitly predicted the dark energy effect 40 years before it was discovered; there's no getting around that fact. It's bewildering to find something that seemingly prescient in the books of a self-proclaimed 50s-era alien contactee, but it's there. And his surviving talks in audio format are absolutely compelling - he was a highly intelligent scientist, and he made a raft of riveting statements which I'm still contemplating nearly 25 years after first discovering his books on the subjects of physics and cosmology.
I have a much different working hypothesis about the 50's era contactees though. I probably shouldn't say this because it will sound crazy to many people, but I entertain the possibility that Daniel Fry really was contacted by an advanced humanoid civilization, and I think that they may have initiated a series of deliberately laughable contactee experiences with several other people as a covert operation to provide Daniel Fry with a workable counterintelligence cover. By creating a smokescreen in the form of several readily dismissible contactee stories, they assured that Daniel Fry's account would also be quickly discounted by the authorities. So it's quite possible that Aura Rhanes was a real alien operative involved in a covert PsyOp on Earth, for that specific purpose. I never expected to consider such a thing, but after hearing Ray Stanford's account about the medallion that Aura Rhanes had ordered from a local jeweler, I was forced to consider the extreme possibilities of the situation.
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Black Angus
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Thomas isnt a contactee, He's one of the most clued up scientific minds looking at propulsion physics in the context of ET'sH craft.
The field need more ppl like him.
(Edit: i use the term ET'sH because imo the current model of the universe as observes suggests Extra terrestrials plural are visiting us. I think this is very important to consider because if that's the case we are dealing with multiple motivations and modus operandi. Too many try and fit all the evidence into a single box and then get confused when lots of it doesn't reconcile or is incompatible with a unified answer)
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
nvm i re-read his post and i was confused
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
i am sorry, i was confused
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
thats pretty much the same conclusion john reached, just replace the ET part with ultraterrestrial
and i have to agree, another obvious case of PSY-OP was the contactee howard menger, many of his contacts wre borderline trolling done by the entity, i think now we need to re-evaluate cases like adamsky and meier
humanoidlord
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annnd once again someone mis-understood one of my posts
*sigh*
Black Angus
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It's been ages since I looked into Adamski and Meier so I can't recall many of the details, and I never looked into the Howard Merger story at all, but I think we also have to consider the bandwagon effect - some of these people may have hoaxed their stories when the other accounts came out. That's a pretty predictable outcome actually, and it would make a smokescreen operation even more effective.
humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
yep, in fact many people may have been told directly by the psy-op'ers to fake a encounter
Maybe. Or...they're just big fat liars who would do anything for some publicity, haha.
humanoidlord
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of course! there is always the idiots that come later, lol
Dewey
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No worries, we are only human after all
You are assuming facts not in evidence...
Black Angus
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Call it a well educated guess, based on the balance of probability.
goblin
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P.S., Sorry, I already wrote too much but - on the pathological angle - that is why I thought Gene's "threat" to go into a nursing home might be a good idea. If he could get into a good facility (not sure it's possible) he might actually get some treatment that could make his life easier. In this thread people have stated he suffers from OCD and the begging certainly appears compulsive; it could explain some of the reckless spending as well.
If nothing else hopefully he would be in a situation where he could not keep digging an even deeper hole for himself.
It could be it is past time for whatever family he has to step up (again?) and try to stabilize his and Barbara's lifestyle. But of course this is just how it appears to me from reading a whole lot of stuff online. The actual situation may be another story.
If nothing else hopefully he would be in a situation where he could not keep digging an even deeper hole for himself.
It could be it is past time for whatever family he has to step up (again?) and try to stabilize his and Barbara's lifestyle. But of course this is just how it appears to me from reading a whole lot of stuff online. The actual situation may be another story.
Double Nought Spy
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I have wondered, too, about the gambling angle. It would explain a lot. It is also far more common than a lot of people think it is. Definitely some sort of compulsive behavior, along with who-knows-what else. I probably don't really want to know all the details.
I don't feel too sorry for his victims. It's absurdly easy to get the facts before sending cash to anyone on line. People are dumb, and most are willing to help someone in real need, so con artists find easy money in taking advantage of anyone not paying attention.
Years ago, a family member developed dementia. He had been a very bright and successful professional, but started doing all sorts of insane things. It was difficult wresting control of his finances from him before it all went to "Nigerian princes" and such slime. He was given a weekly allowance to blow in whatever way he chose, something he fumed about for the rest of his life. It ain't pretty, that's for sure.
I don't feel too sorry for his victims. It's absurdly easy to get the facts before sending cash to anyone on line. People are dumb, and most are willing to help someone in real need, so con artists find easy money in taking advantage of anyone not paying attention.
Years ago, a family member developed dementia. He had been a very bright and successful professional, but started doing all sorts of insane things. It was difficult wresting control of his finances from him before it all went to "Nigerian princes" and such slime. He was given a weekly allowance to blow in whatever way he chose, something he fumed about for the rest of his life. It ain't pretty, that's for sure.
nivek
As Above So Below
This bit you said here is how I feel too, people get ripped off all the time, whether locally or online and nope I do not feel sorry for any of them...Not saying that I wouldn't help someone who got taken and lost money or something and was having a struggle because of that, depending on the situation I probably would help someone out, but I don't have to feel sorry for them for doing something foolish...People who give money to a cause or a individual without checking any background are foolish and ignorant...I'm not talking about walking down the street and giving someone a couple dollars or a twenty, that's different lol but I think you know what I mean...
I have to wonder though, on his Facebook, Google Plus, and other places which he has his collection plate out, there seems to be one or trice persons whos posts overflow with sympathy and compassion and state they generously gave money as if they do not know one bit of what's transpired over the years...Is this individual real or is it a fake user, a sock puppet from him to draw in a real donation by making it appear someone else gave good money to him?...
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Double Nought Spy
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It's hard to know about sock puppets, but he is notorious for posting fake reviews of his own work, and those users sure do seem to be more of the same. I know which way I'd bet. 
nivek
As Above So Below
It's hard to know about sock puppets, but he is notorious for posting fake reviews of his own work, and those users sure do seem to be more of the same. I know which way I'd bet.
What we were discussing above reminds me a little of a friend of mine who lives a thousand miles away and have known him for a while now...He gets into some bad financial situations from time to time, always seems to wait until he's at the ropes to tell me about it too lol...I can't feel sorry for him because he does this every few years or so, but I am sympathetic to his situation at those moments and help him out, being sympathetic to a situation and feeling sorry for someone are two different things imo...
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