Discussion in 'Social Place' started by The shadow, May 24, 2018.
If Gene hired him he'll assuredly never be paid
isn't that the podcast that got on a guy that claimed to be the original man behind john titor?
that was inevitable really
time to prepare the prison cell to the king of bad ufology!
Yes thats the Cach matter
C A C H, L L C Vs Jaret I Beizer
CACH, LLC, purchases portfolios of both domestic (U.S.) and international consumer debt owned by credit grantors including banks and finance companies, and by other debt buyers. As the new owner of any debt previously owned by another creditor, CACH’s name may appear on a customer's credit report or in a letter from a collection agency.
Interesting that there is a Jane Doe Beizer listed, chasing that one gets me this
Herbert Jolson Vs Stephen Beizer
Seems like the whole family are debt dodgers
..I understand why we're digging deep and all, but honestly, bringing up Schemeberg's SIL and nephew doesn't sit well, personally. They haven't sent out 15 years worth of begging emails. HE has. Yeah, there's the FB GoFundMe, but it's fairly obvious who actually wrote that, right down to the closing lines full of fake sincerity. The BIL is fair game, IMHO, because he was fairly obviously a scammer himself, but the other two....that's pricking my conscience a bit.
Y'all do what y'all feel best, of course, I'm a n00b here, I just thought I'd share my thoughts. Sorry in advance.
No need to apologize, that's a valid point and your honest opinion. I agree that the focus should be on Gene, since he's the one panhandling and lying online every few minutes, it seems. Some recent comments about him here and other places have been pretty over the top. I am harshly critical of Gene, but try to keep from getting crude or irresponsible with my comments. If we start going after relatives, sycophants, apologists and what have you, it will get nasty really fast.
I dont disagree with the sentiments above, But knowing Gene has lied about stuff, i feel its necessary to look into them as a fact checking exercise.
Gene said his BIL died leaving a disabled child behind.
And while child is a correct term as is son, it paints a picture of a very young dependent.
Stephen Barry Beizer
Jaret I Beizer, 44 Helene Beizer, 71
When in fact Jaret is actually 44 years old.
I'm fact checking all of Genes con story, and that involves them because he has used them to make his case that we should feel sorry for him
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Right nobody is going after his relatives. It is a case of fact checking what he is saying.
The only person who brings relatives into the matter is Gene himself.
If he had an ounce of decency in his bones he wouldn't pull his friends and family into his web of lies in the first place.
I hear you; for me it's that they were all involved in Numis Gems somehow, and have been part of Gene's begging stories. I'm trying to understand how things may have fit together and what was true vs. what Gene has claimed.
But, point taken. I had been hesitant to bring them up initially, especially the son, as I didn't want to drag them through Gene's mud or air their dirty laundry. But some things weren't quite adding up for me so I wanted to see if others had more info, or could correct my impressions.
As always I could go on but I'll leave it at that.
Like I said, I get what y'all are saying/doing, and it makes sense; Schemey is who dragged the names into it to begin with, and I understand. I'm not trying to tell anybody what to do, I was just expressing my own feelings on the matter.
I agree, I'm fine exposing his business related dealings and potential fraud, but this is a guy who apparently used his own son's name to put on lease agreements and caused him to get judgments in his name. He's not above throwing his own son under the bus, so his claims of altruism are lost on me.
I'll tell you exactly what happened. One of his relatives involved in some lawsuit needed money to pay the lawyer, and the lawyer told them they were probably looking at a huge settlement - and Gene's eyes lit up. He wanted a piece of the action because he thought once again, he was going to get something for nothing, and got burned in the end on it. The same way he's lived his life, since ever.
And if you want to look into Gene's background, you don't have to go much further than some of statements he made 10+ years ago on his own forum. The irony of this one for instance:
The Paracast is Moving to Sunday Nights
They did something with the John Titor story, but I can't recall what it was.
Hey, lets ask Gene his option on exposing frauds and if people should take a look at it ...
May 23 show
They had a guy on who said he was the one that created and carried out the original John Titor hoax.
He sounded quite plausible too - it was a combination of a prank and a kind of real time scifi writing experiment; which he was surprised by the success of.
Unfortunately, after he appeared, the guy got harassed so badly by true believers, (who considered him a disinformation agent), that he left the field altogether and refused to talk about it again.
The show hosts were also harassed, I believe to the point where they discussed ending the show.
I wasn't aware of that but I can believe it. People can get crazy when you tell them something they believed in was not real.
I didn't see this posted, but it looks like Gene might get some bombshells dropped soon. He may have more to worry about than a few forum threads and blogs about his actions ...
SchemeGeneRC on Twitter
I saw Tim's tweet, but not Adam's. As George Takei says, "Oh, myyyy."
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