Old Encounters

Todd Feinman

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This would probably be the famous "Estimate of the Situation".
Congress needs to get the Air Force to testify, and ask them about the "Estimate". They've been dead silent recently on the UFO situation, of course...

Mail (Adelaide, SA : 1912 - 1954), Saturday 27 September 1952, page 2
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The "Estimate of the Situation":


The "Estimate of the Situation":
Unhelpful quotation from Wikipedia regarding Estimate:
Popular Mechanics called the report "probably more mythological than real".
How the hell would the magazine know if an internal USAF document was suppressed? Answer: They couldn't. -So, citing their opinion is worthless.

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Unhelpful quotation from Wikipedia regarding Estimate:

How the hell would the magazine know if an internal USAF document was suppressed? Answer: They couldn't. -So, citing their opinion is worthless.
The Estimate certainly existed:


what do you think Ezekiel saw? a craft? or illusion? or a miracle? View attachment 18414View attachment 18415

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A NASA scientist wrote a whole book about this.
In The Spaceships of Ezekiel Blumrich asserts that Ezekiel's account in the Bible was not a description of a meeting with God in a prophetic vision, but one of several encounters with ancient astronauts in a shuttlecraft from another planet.
It's in the public domain if anyone wants to read it.

Todd Feinman

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I don't see why Ezekiel's vision couldn't have been a UFO --it certainly could have been one, but the encounter was then overlaid with the symbolic cherubic creatures and interpreted as a divine interaction. Or not. I think it is wrong to think of UFOs as nuts and bolts types of devices that are operated by Star Trekky aliens. They are much stranger than that.

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Mercury (Hobart, Tas. : 1860 - 1954), Saturday 25 February 1950, page 2


Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners' Advocate (NSW : 1876 - 1954), Saturday 25 February 1950, page 1


The latest on the Flying Saucer
Greatest Mystery of Our Times

HE Flying Saucer Mystery, in my opinion, is the biggest mystery
Tmodern man ever has had to face. Here, briefly, is how it began:
On June 24, 1947. Kenneth Arnold, a Boise, Idaho, business man,
flying his own plane near Mount Rainier, Washington, sighted a fleet
of nine gleaming disks skidding above and along the snowy mountain
chain. He judged they were going 1700 mph.
Since then, there have been similar sightings from Southern Cali-
fornia to Newfoundland-in fact. all around the world. Commander
Augusto Orrego sighted a group of such saucers spinning high in the
air above the Chilean Navy base in Antarctica. They have been seen
over the Dutch East Indies and the Philippines; over the Arabian Red
Sea; over the Mediterranean; over France and Britain. New sightings
are taking place week by week.
And what do the sighters say they see? A disk, a thing like a huge
quoit - sometimes one, sometimes several. The
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What is the explanation of these sky-craft? the B.B.C., pioneere
"War-fear-bysteria" was the first. "The whole significant psychica
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1947 should have been the first, and they were not. Long before there
were planes or dirigibles, observers now and then did notice strange
vessels flying in the high sky. Away back in the last century, there
were solitary visitors, looking us over. Today we have flotillas of them.
The second explanation was advanced last February by the Office of
Naval Research. What observers had taken for flying saucers, we were
told, were really plastic weather balloons.
Does this explanation cover the facts? It does not. Some of the
objects were balloons, no doubt. Many certainly were not. From scores
of first-rate observations, let us quickly review six cases that prove
the saucers are not balloons but a new kind of super-sky-craft with
prodigious powers.
First there is the well-known case of Naval Commander Robert

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number of his fellow workers at White Sands
Rocket Proving Ground intNew Mexico. A flying
saucer actually rushed into view while a team
from that base, equipped with a theodolite tele-
scope, was observing a drifting balloon. Their
special instruments enabled this team to gauge
the height and the speed of such visitors, which
were seen several times. On was 56 miles high
and was going 18,000 mph.
Or take Case Two. In July 1948, Pilot Clarence
S. Chiles and his co-pilot John B. Whitted were
flying an Eastern Airlines passenger plane near
Montgomery, Alabama, on their standard course.
Suddenly a huge black cigar-shaped object, lit
down its length with uncanny lights and giving
out a great wake of flame, rushed at them head
on. By a masterly maneuver the huge cigar swung
up and out of their way and they felt their own
plane heave in the stranger's wash.
The third, fourth and fifth cases also involved
airline captains and co-pilots-all unusually re-
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Captain Jack Adams and co-pilot G. W. Anderson of Chicago and
Southern Airlines saw a disk sweeping around them in a great curve
of inspection. A blinding blue-white light flashed from its top; along
its rim, fluorescent patches made it glow.
This Disk Was Seen by Passengers and Crew

Case Four--that of Captain R. Adickes and co-pilot R. Manning-
is even odder. These two pilots roused their passengers near South
Bend (Ind.) to watch a bright red disk that had rushed up beside
them, rolling along on its edge like a glowing cartwheel.
The fifth case is that of two pilots-Captain W. T. Sperry and Co-
pilot W. Gates-who, between Washington, D. C., and Nashville, saw
a disk shining dazzling blue-white and racing around them.
The sixth case, however, beats all of these in the uncanny. It con-
cerns Aviation Editor Janssen of the Morristown (N. J.) Daily Record,
who one day took a photo of four "disks" in flight. A few weeks
later two other disks approached a plane in which he was flying and
--they held him up! He says his engine stopped as two disks poised
above him and yet, he was surprised to learn, his plane did not fall.
When the disks made off, his plane's nose went down, the engine
started and he flew back to his field.
This story tends to confirm the account of Captain Charles Lane

and a co-pilot who in 1945, flying at 24,000 feet over The Hump
between China and India, suddenly saw a white disk-shaped object
rushing up behind them. at terrific speed. It rose above them. Lane's
instrument board "went haywire." He switched off the motors but the
plane's nose did not go down. The two pilots felt a slight joggle. The
plane had been stopped.
Then the disk above them suddenly swooped off into the sky. Lane
switched on the engines and they started up.
Captain Lane has no doubt he had the same experience as Mr.
Janssen and co-pilot.
Here, then, are six cases that blow the balloon theory to pieces.
Obviously these men are not frauds. hysterics or ignoramuses. It
would be hard to find better witnesses.
Are "All" Saucers Really Weather Balloons?
Interest in flying saucers is like undulant fever, high one day, sub-
normal the next. The latest slump occurred last February following
the Office of Naval Research statement that all saucers were really
weather balloons. Since February. however, sightings have continued
to come in, as fast as snowflakes in a storm.
Naturally, the Naval Research Office report dealt only with the
balloons the N.R.O. sent up. These only travel some hundreds of

by Gerald Heard