The Bible: True, False, Or Irrelevant?

Discussion in 'Knowledge of the Spirit' started by dr wu, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. Toroid

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    If Adam(Adamu) & Eve where in a constructed area filled with fruit bearing trees they would have been under observation. I suspect the Reptilians were attempting to undermine the goals of the Annunaki and induced the consumption of a forbidden fruit to muck the experiment. At some point in time they did form an alliance with each other. The fruit/consumable would have been something that extended life or supplied knowledge. According to the Wingmakers material a food chain was created to support Human 1.0. I wonder what that would include and can we find most of it at the grocery store today?
    Forbidden fruit - Wikipedia
     
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  2. August

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    Maybe I am becoming asinine as the big 3 approaches ? But to me the thought of Religio debate is just plainly 'bleh' . Move on , nothing here , no Virgin births nor raising the dead nor talking serpents for me. Is it ok to have thoughts of strangling people who push religion into my face at the most inopportune times ? Or is it I am a child of the Devil and having these anti religion thoughts come naturally to me as I find it all an anti thesis. Anyways I like Xmas not because some poor unfortunate woodworker got nailed to a post because he upset the Romans but because of its Pagan attributes. By the way Shadow how is your bottle of Hootch going ?
     
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  3. August

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    The compound where Adam and Eve were kept seems to have been mainly run by the talking snake . If God was in charge he would have simply throttled the slithering reptile and put paid to him for good instead of blaming poor old Adam and Eve for their apple biting transgressions. Denying them both the knowledge to the tree of good and evil was a pretty dumb thing to do and then God heartlessly throwing his creations to the wolves was not an act of a loving God but one of someone who can't control his own creations. They do something wrong he throws them under a bus ? But who am I to say maybe your thoughts Toroid are in fact the truth.
     
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  4. Toroid

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    In The Lost Book of Enki it said the passing of Nibiru pulled the Antarctica ice sheet into the sea sending a wall of water into the upper atmosphere making it rained for 40 days & nights. Gravity is supposedly instantaneous and if that flood story is true it would explain the speed at which the ice hit the water. I don't think any group or god caused the flood. I do believe the planet was designed to withstand the passing of Nibiru & Nemesis. It's claimed Earth is the bottom half of Tiamat which the Reptilians called the Watery Monster. One of the theories of frogs and other aquatic species raining upon the land is they came from space and were originally in the oceans of Tiamat. They would be frozen and perfectly preserved in space. That would imply that planet had land. There was a whale found on the shore of a small river and nobody knows how it got there. If it came from space you would think it would have left a crater and exploded on impact.
     
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  5. August

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    Is your bottle of Moonshine giving you the dribbles. I crave chocolate when I drink Red wine.
     
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  6. Toroid

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    I tried moonshine once. I heard your tongue absorbs it and you feel the effect before it reaches your stomach.
     
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  7. August

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    Is it like Jugoslav whisky (?) that can melt ice cream and removes oil stains off concrete .
     
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  8. Toroid

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    You could make a lot of money with the recipe. :)
     
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  9. pepe

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    As my brother is a huge whiskey fan may I take the opportunity to inform the drinkers of America that a single malt with the name " Spey or Speyside" as being the proper stuff. Me, na, makes me puke and angry.
     
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  10. Dundee

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    The problem with a religious discussion (for me at least) has always been the way that some of the real obvious stuff just gets fobbed off. See thats the problem with blind faith. With UFO's you get an opportunity to at least be a little objective. Not so with religion. No one has ever answered for example the NOAS Arc story. No one seems to notice that this would be virtually impossible to achieve now, let alone back then. The realistic logistics of it alone make the story nonsense. Yet, some hold it as a parable, some hold it as a truth.
    And we all descended from ADAM and Eve...One couple?, so this means kane and able and or their offspring didn't mind bonking their Mum or their sister. Never mind the bazillion contradictions in the bible. This is why I have always respected an individuals right to believe in God. I am absolutely fine with that. And if they say they have felt the presence of God, I am happy to believe that they felt something they interpret as God, and that it was a real experience. As to what it really is, well I have my own thought on that.
    But please, don't show me that book of rubbish called the bible. I just can't fathom how you can take seriously anything in it.
     
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  11. nivek

    nivek As Above So Below

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    Spiritual beliefs and religious beliefs are two different things...
     
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  12. Shadowprophet

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    Possibly so.
     
  13. Kchoo

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    Forget the Bible.... Listen to the energy of the Universe... it is all around you. You cannot move your hand without touching it, or without it touching you...

    Look up at the sky and just quietly stare at the moon, or the stars, or the clouds.. whatever it presents in that moment... Can you sense it? Can you feel the presence? Let it seep into your bones...

    Realize that it is all one thing...

    Then read the bible if you want... with that perspective in mind...
     
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  14. dr wu

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    Since I started this thread...I'm going to just briefly jump in here to say that another view of the video I posted in the beginning might put some perspective on the topic.
    Christianity is 'faith based' as are all of the major religions....it is not objective ,factual, nor verifiable when looking for rational scientific material explanations for the claims made. That's the only fact we have .
    At any rate .......
     
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  15. Rick Hunter

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    Just gonna add a few cents here.

    I am a Christian, part of the Wesleyan branch. I was born into the faith and will die in it. Being a Christian serves my self-interest, as it makes my life on Earth better and promises a better world to come after I die. So, I will continue to be a Christian for the rest of my life. I have a duty to introduce others to the faith. Just make the introduction, that's all. If they don't want it they can go on their merry way and we can still be friends, I have no right or desire to decide for them. I enjoy studying other religions, as well as other branches of Christianity. I am not a Universalist nor do I believe there is any salvation outside of Jesus Christ, but all the major religions I have studied have some elements of truth in them. In any event, such study helps me understand History better.

    I could not possibly care less about efforts to prove or disprove any religion through scientific means, nor do I pay attention to such evidence. Religion is about choice and faith, not mere causal acceptance. If one believes in Jesus, Moses, Muhammad, Buddha or anything else only after exhaustive scientific and/or academic study, they probably do not have true faith in their chosen religion. As to the arguments that religions have caused millions of deaths in the world, everything I have studied reveals that "religious" wars usually have the same core causes and objectives as other wars, i.e. control of land, people, resources, and so on. I think that true wars in which religion is the one true object of the participants are very rare indeed, perhaps they have never really existed. In fact, I think the Cold War between the USA and Soviet Union was much closer to a true religious war than any of the others mentioned.
     
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  16. nivek

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    No doubt about it, the two follow different paths and goals, one is for and practised by the masses, the other is discovered by a few...
     
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  17. August

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    Why is there a male God with no female counterpart (?) that's about as Male chauvinistic as you can get. Father, Son and Male orientated Holy Spook. Jesus and his disciples, again no females what gives ?? Its a boys club the bible written by men for men . What a swifty .
     
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  18. Shadowprophet

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    I know you are not leaning toward the believing side. But according to scripture, In no place ever does it say God the one the Bible is about is the (only) God. In fact, one scripture leads to believe there are others.

    (Thou shalt have no other Gods before me )

    So. That's a possibility.
     
  19. Shadowprophet

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    I didn't do anything, Look at your emotional state. You have gone loony tunes man, Your raving. ....

    You did this to yourself. I was way softer and more personal with you than some enemy who is fighting with you, And I think everyone here can see that but you. You flipped your wig man. I didn't do this. you did.
     
  20. Shadowprophet

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    To be perfectly honest, If you want my nonsoft opinion, You thought highly of me before this Christian Debate. I suffered your consistent attacks on my spirit. Ranging from being called everything from a pedophile to an idiot to a murderer.

    Define Bigot:
    big·ot
    ˈbiɡət/
    noun
    1. a person who is intolerant of those holding different opinions.
      "don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"
      synonyms: chauvinist, partisan, sectarian;
    Now. To judge me based entirely on my Spiritualism is a form of bigotry. You have been a bigot toward me. And I tolerated it. Never once did I call you that until you flipped stupid on me.

    There is no Christian arrogance here. I have the Right to be treated respectfully. And so do others. You need to calm down. And consider apologizing.
     
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