humanoidlord
ce3 researcher
Hello all.
Interesting thread.
I would say that neither Vallee nor Keel drove the very public Condon panel to reject UFOs as a topic for USAF scrutiny. The Condon panel did that themselves by examining USAF reports, and Condon was an expert physicist. Political? Whatever. In 1969 it wasn’t Keel or Vallee who “discredited” the ETH.
Regardless, I do not defend terminology or ideas proffered by Vallee, Keel or others. I only speak for myself. I’ve had two potential sightings, though I am pretty sure both were mundane, one probably a bolide, and the other a spectacular slowly reentering satellite.
On the other hand, while studying at university, I was struck by the complexities of the spdf orbitals as something elegant beyond a “random chance” accident. That and other science issues, together with a number of anomalous experiences, led me past my upbringing of naturalism to a theistic view of reality.
So, I’ve pondered my anomalous experiences: How can a discrete, so-called “non-corporal” sentient being know my thoughts and interact with me? My conjecture is that sentient intelligence is not confined to structures made solely of Standard Model particles. This concept will be a major hurdle for many people. The fact is, all Standard Model particles in the universe occur within the “vacuum.” So, yeah, in my best Keanu Reeves impression, “What is the ‘Vacuum’?” I haven’t read of anyone who is confident that they know what the vacuum “substance” is composed of. I get the impression that many think of it as a roiling quantum sea that continuously produces infinite pairs of self-annihilating virtual particles, together with the actual particles that make up our universe. As I understand things, in our “upper” side of the quantum vacuum (Planck length or greater), all causal interactions are limited in speed to c, or the speed of light.
So, if one be permitted to speculate, based on the pattern of discoveries of late 19th and 20th century physics that revealed a great deal of astonishingly small “substance” to the universe that was previously unknown:
What if there is, on the less-than-Planck-length “under side” of the quantum vacuum – tentatively the sub-quantum (SQ) – a different “Standard Model” of SQ particles many orders of magnitude smaller than our Standard Model particle zoo? Such SQ particles would ostensibly be all around us, engulfing us, and through-and-through us, and perhaps part of our very being as well. Yet, we would not be able to isolate and study them. What if our own consciousness is based on structures that include such SQ particles?
Too, what if there are also intelligent sentient beings composed only of SQ particles?
What if such SQ sentient beings can, and do, interact up through the Planck-length divide into our macro-Planck, Standard Model side? And if so, then perhaps these SQ entities can “precipitate” any element on our Periodic Table here on our side of the quantum vacuum, at will, in any form they like. Not exactly like heating up a mixture of metals to form a figure, but perhaps not that far from the idea, except that these SQ entities don’t need molds.
Then too, what if the SQ rate of causality is much faster than c? (?Perhaps related to what we see as “entanglement”?) That would potentially give SQ sentient entities speed of thought and action in the SQ domain much faster than us, and they could conceivably cause phenomena that, to us, do not conform to physics.
What if some of these SQ sentient entities detest human beings and continually do stuff to torment and deceive us? UFOs have been and remain so tantalizingly coy. Many people’s boundless enthusiasm for the subject is a serious distraction from pressing life-issues. And if “abduction” is actually related to UFOs, then it could be taken as evidence of such harassment.
Reject my conjecture if inclined. I concede that it is not proof. It is my speculation for myself, trying to understand my personal experiences. The bottom line, from my theistic view, is that there is an infinite-infinitesimal foundation of reality that upholds all other aspects of all of reality, the supreme Being, as written, “In him we live and move and have our being.”
I can only think of a few even semi-credible multiple witness UFO - CE3 cases. None seems to me to prove what their origin is, much less the ETH. So, any view, ETH included, would be an extrapolation.
Kelly Hopkinsville Encounter,
Father Gill in Papua New Guinea,
Anglican father and UFO 1959 at DuckDuckGo
Gaffney, SC – two cops encounter a disc and a little man who spoke excellent English,
Pascagoula, Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker,
Voronezh, USSR,
Voronezh UFO Landing, 1989
Ariel School,
So, I was passin’ by. First post. Prolly my last. Oh well … Best wishes.
excellent post!
your idea is very similar to keel's superspectrum idea, that the ultraterrestrials live in an extension of the radiation spectrum